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Back in the day, we called this doodleing. I tended to do this with a pencil and paper in math class. It’s nice to know that it has a fancy name too.
It’s exciting to hear “the why of it” explained. I had exactly this experience this summer when I underpainted my new oil painting paper in oranges and pinks, very loosely. I was doing a demo and had a few reference photos to choose from. One of the photos would jump out as the right one, based on where the swooshes lay. I was a little afraid to talk about it out loud lest I sounded like I’d been smokin’ something! Nice to know I’m fine!
The point is not to begin with the splatter, or smear, or slosh, or whatever, and then try to force it into something you want it to become. Let the thing grow into its own reality. It’s not meant to be an “underpainting”. It’s meant to become an organism of its own reality. Some of my favorite paintings — and most of my best ones — were done in just this way. Sometimes, it seems like a “possession” or a “takeover” by some “other”. (The new agers call it “channeling”.) I prefer to think of it as my subconscience kicking in. It’s far more fun to just let it happen. Of course, control freaks or those who tend to fear what they might discover within themselves will never be able to let themselves go into such a “zone of freedom” as this requires…
This is a new word to me, thanks for the introduction Robert.. I have tried this out without knowing this word and I thought it was serendipity that happened on my canvas, one stroke led to another, finally I could see a mother and child come out live! It is an intriguing process since we dont know the end result.
Try this: Put on some jazz or classical music. Play it loud — like you used to do when you were young and free. Get naked, and “dance with the canvass”.
I have just discovered this, not through my oils and canvas, but with digital painting. One literally starts with splotches and such until something begins appear and you go from there. So creative and relaxing.
Hi Robert,
My question is somewhat related to you subject. I was at a workshop and the instructor mentioned a word that I can’t find in my notes. The definition of the word is; your knowledge outpaces your current ability. It was a new word to me with much the same meaning as “capability”. Any idea of what the word is?I found this letter resoundingly spoke to me and expressed my sentiments perfectly. True creation cannot be manipulated to fit an end result. Beginning with no plan, no external guidance or direction can be intimidating to most and that is why there is a plethora of well executed replications of our surroundings often cleverly cropped. But for someone like myself, who can copy too easily, starting with a blank and allows my imagination to roam . It kicks in after some intial primitive markings as you suggest. Everyone has to find their own way to restrain the automatic and encourage the spontaneous.
Visual people are instinctively prone to make associations with the world around them… ie see faces or objects in trees or clouds etc… So a more obscure outcome also encourages the viewer to participate more in the interpretation of the piece. My challenge is to delve deeper and surprise myself. I never know where the work is going. By working in mixed media collage, I can keep working the puzzle until it tells me it is finished.Great word! Though I didn’t know my studio work is autopoietic, I’m glad I now have a word to describe it in less than four sentences. Thanks. My out-of-the-studio work is mostly exercises in realism to hone all of my skills so that they are sharp and ready to respond to the canvases in the studio.
OK, but how do you make your autopoiesal art to accept one possibility rather than to keep exploring numerous possibilities? Autopoiesis can be so seductive and autonomous that it can totally ignore the need to actually poise anything. I have a blast changing one piece and trying out endless ideas perhaps all I need is one big canvas and a digital camera!
This intuitive process is exactly how I work, and every piece might be entirely unique from the last. It has been said to have too many voices, which is a valid criticism because generally, galleries have limited space and want consistency, so I’ve zeroed in on trees as a common subject.
I’ve never read a better explanation of the kind of painting that I do. I can’t tell you how excited I got when I read this letter.
After being criticized for not having a plan, painting too fast, not enough layers etc., this was music to my ears. Thank you so much. After reading this I’ve decided to continue doing what I do best and to stop struggling with it.Thank you for your words on this subject. It is a fascinating theme and it explains part of the creative process. I believe autopoiesis leads to direct expression rather than the opposite method.
Why are you giving away my secret process? Based on the accounts of Cezanne never placing a mark next to another without study and time. However the secret is safe from most as it takes the “artist’s vision” to place the next mark in relation to all others. But Robert, you do come close sometimes to giving away
the farm. Haahahahahahaha.I LOVED this one. Took the shackles right off! Thanks.
There are two kinds of artists, those who know what the end product will look like and those who let the process determine the outcome. I first noticed in art school that people always seemed to work in one of two ways, one group with the product in mind or mostly in mind, and the second, which I fall into which is to let the work take the lead and see where the process ends up. I think it might be called product oriented artists or process oriented artists. Idledale, Colorado
Rob, your letter brings up why making art is such an interesting thing to do. And there are so many ways to do it. I am always amazed.
It’s funny but you just described how I work on many of my abstract creations — I always thought this was “automatisme” — how do you think this differs from “autopoiesis”? In my version of automatisme (aptly named or not), the last application of paint dictates the next and so on – is this not pure automatisme or is it autopoiesis? i.e. should all gestures be self sustaining and independent or should they be related to what’s already there? Just wondering.
Hi Robert — I am so laughing at this new word — Just last night I watched Virginia Cobb’s Abstract tutorial and kept telling myself this lady was crazy!! At the end of the video she had an interview recorded and I did understand what she had done – but not before as she was doing it – as she doesn’t talk much while doing the abstract . In the beginning I considered it a waste of my time and money – but here you are validating what she does (more or less!!). so Yes, i am up to the challenge, Thanks, Robert (You presented the same thing, FREE, in one paragraph and even told us what it is – self creation – don’t think I need the video after all!) Love your emails!!
Do you agree that we will sometime sit on the moon to paint?
I did not know there was a word for what I have been doing! Thank you so much! I lay in color and let it run together, because I love watching watercolor run and bloom and sort of paint itself. I like being out of control in that way which feels so free, and I also like breaking rules that I learned in early watercolor classes, like blooms are not a desirable thing, you must mix your own black and never use Payne’s grey. I bloom on purpose, use sharpie markers for black and often infuse a little Payne’s grey into my work. Then, when the colors are down, I do line work and it is actually the way the colors mixed on the page that informs the line work. Often, I do not see the possibilities of anything representational until the end, and then when I do, I develop that. It is the most fun that I have had in many years of doing art. Plymouth MN
Autopoietic Art its a mind-brooding issue indeed! I suggest that autopoiesis and allopoiesis are the two main approaches we use to create art. On the one hand, it is the result that defines, on the other- its kind of free sale of your soul where the process is the target, not the result. Thank you for putting my kettle on fire again!
Now I have an explanation for what I’m doing with my abstract painting. It has been a continual process in letting go, letting it unfold, ask the painting what it needs and or, what can I do that pleases me to make it “work”. It’s been a fascinating experience and I’ve been learning a lot about abstract expression and about myself in the process. It is enlightening and exhilarating to paint……FINALLY! I’d like to get there with realistic and plein air painting someday. But for now, I’m just going to enjoy myself in this process.
Oddly enough- aren’t we talking about procreation and birth? Mom and Dad….do it and nine months later viola! Autopoietic! The product is new and improved and yet has the elements of both Mom and Dad. Call me crazy!
The autonomy of living systems is a central feature of autopoiesis. Yet autopoietic theory recognizes that systems exist within environments, obtain resources from them, and remain open to them. This allows for both operational autonomy of autopoietic systems (in terms of their self-referentiality), and for mutually affecting relationships between such systems and their environments. In other words, they are simultaneously autonomic and dependent. This autonomy-dependency paradox, which is a characteristic feature of living beings, is better understood in terms of dynamic relationships between the parts rather than a binary model of either/or.
Following this concept of dynamic relationships, I would suggest that art-making is always both allopoietic/ determined AND autopoietic/ random. No matter the genre or style, the very act of deciding to paint something sets up an allopoietic condition: there’s a specific goal… to create a piece of art over time using certain materials — involving a system outside of ourselves (the painting) which depends on input from the environment (us) in order to come into being. On the other hand, the work also exists independently from us in an autopoietic state, making the artwork both the product and producer (of itself). But we need to keep in mind that though the work is autonomous and the final result unpredictable, it is also shaped by interactions with its environment (us) just as our responses are shaped by interactions with the work. In this ongoing dialogue between artist and our art, we adjust colors that look too warm or cool when applied to the canvas; deepen values that appear too light only in context; or rework a composition that just seems to need something for more satisfying balance. It is necessarily a transactional, recursive and dynamic process. My own work always begins with an element of randomness in spattered, dripped or poured acrylic paint to give the blank canvas a semblance of autopoietic life. I eventually incorporate realistic figures, but even as I attempt to guide some aspects of the process I am guided by and responsive to the autonomy of the evolving piece. Relishing the paradox, I find, expands the options and the pleasures!
Leeward Shores, Windward Dreams pastel painting, 56 x 44 inches by Mary Aslin, CA, USA |
Nice painting!