Post-post modern installation for the ages
by Mike Young, Oakville, ON, Canada
Working in stone does give us sculptors the edge in the immortality stakes — for good or bad. I have speculated on how a work of mine, dug up by an advanced — or returned to primitive — civilization, say 4000 years hence, will view their abstract “find.” A fertility symbol? A Shaman’s altar piece? Part of a larger, lost mechanism? Who was the artist, and why did he make it? The list of speculative possibilities goes on and on. Hey, maybe I’ll throw a few assorted pieces into a bog somewhere as a post-post modern installation for the ages.
Similarities spark speculation
by Jackie Knott, Fischer, TX, USA
I’m so pleased you are visiting China, especially Xi’an and the Terracotta Warriors. We visited in 2010 and it was a memorable trip. Interesting how we don’t recall the emperor’s name without Google’s help but everyone knows of the Warriors; as you say the art is immortal. The enclosed photo was taken at the National Museum in Beijing. When I saw this pottery I literally broke stride and stared. The caption stated it was carbon dated to 10,000 years old and the similarities of this grouping and others, to Southwest U.S. design pottery cannot be mistaken. There is speculation that some Native American tribes could be related to early Asian explorers. There is no archeological proof of that and I deeply wish that theory would be investigated. Further is a painting I did of a Navajo woman. I can assure you the likeness is exact.
Note the lidded eyes, flat nose, and complexion… put this lady in appropriate costume and you just might assign her to a province in China.
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Vibrant energy
by Alev Guvenir, Istanbul, Turkey
Artists communicate through vibrant energy. This energy is an imprint of the Universe. Art, definitely, is immortal. But what about the artist? Whether famous or unknown, the artist no doubt achieves immortality through his or her work. “What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly.” (Richard Bach)
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Hidden caves and longevity
by Peter Brown, Oakland, CA, USA
As for “immortality,” there is no such thing. At best, one can leave a message, some bit of communication that may have an incredible endurance. The Chauvet Caves in France seem to hold the record for human communication across 35,000 years. The secret of that longevity is that the cave opening collapsed, and no one saw that communication for thousands of years. For any artist seeking “immortality,” I would suggest sculpture in granite that is buried deeply under a concrete slab and far away from a subduction zone. My interest in traditional art media is that it has proved trustworthy over hundreds of years. I am thinking about making my own cave, painting it, and having it sealed up and hidden.
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Thrilling trip to China
by Donna Veeder, Utica, NY, USA
I went to see the Terracotta Warriors in 1986. That was also when the Beijing Airport was not much larger than a local bus station. It was my first and most thrilling trip abroad. We watched shepherds leading their sheep through the neatly planted trees toward home and old men playing a gambling game under sparse streetlights. I am so glad I saw China before Beijing began to look like Las Vegas. There were hutongs (narrow streets and alleys) under our windows–we could see into them from the school where I stayed. We took a train ride out into the western desert as far west as Dun Huang, after visiting Xian, at the other end of the Great Wall. Trains were comfortable, the windows opened and we could talk or trade with the people at stations for food or souvenirs. Everyone wanted to talk to us on the train and practice their English. Artists were treated like special people! What a change from home. We were respected. I came home and built myself a studio.
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Two parts of immortality
by Pat Merriman, NC, USA
I have an inventory and, reaching into my late seventies, I realize that I need to consider the “What if” and “When I die.” So I am creating a codicil to my will that will include my collections of art as well as my own inventory. (In my professional and current life I’ve been a volunteer in the cancer and integrative medicine field.) I have asked two artists to be curators, and with my chosen cancer nonprofit to be event specialists… stage a bang up sale, memorial, jazz dance etc., with the funds going to the cancer center. It should be done within about 6 weeks of my death. I would love to hear what others have to say on the subject. Immortality is that my art carries on for the purchasers but contributes to the essence of my lifelong work with cancer.
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A deep understanding of art
by Catherine C. Reed, Ukiah, CA, USA
For many years I taught science classes, studied science and completed advanced degrees, yet I never had a true and deep understanding of science until I engaged in research at a large university. The knowledge and focus I gained from observing and working with experts at the cutting edges of their fields made me think about and practice science in a far more intense and intimate way.
Now I’m retired from that work. Time is short. How can I develop a true understanding of what art is and how to practice it? I make art quilts and strange crocheted objects. Any suggestions you and your readers can give me on developing a deep understanding of art will be greatly appreciated.
(RG note) Thanks, Catherine. You used the word “research” as key to your understanding of science. Apart from getting a wide-ranging understanding of art through books and gallery tours, your own research within the walls of a home workshop can be the most rewarding. In my experience, every work we make is an assay into new territory and an opportunity for study and modification. It is this daily investigation of the potential of creative media and our own capabilities that rewards best of all. We find our most joy through the action of our hands and our minds. It’s a certified way to die happy.
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A challenging situation
by Kamal Bhandari, India
I am an India based realist artist. I regularly read your letters through which I come to know about the challenges faced by various artists and also I get to know helpful advices given by you and others. I would like to discuss one challenge which I face as an artist.
Few years back when I visited a gallery to show my works, the gallery owner appreciated a few pieces and kept them with him for display and subsequent sale. I was delighted to have the feeling that now I have entered the list of professional artists. But when I was leaving the gallery, I suddenly felt my eyes becoming wet. I held back my tears from coming down. I felt as if I have sold my kids, whom I have given birth and brought-up with much care, to someone. I couldn’t bear the pain of being separated from the works which were close to my heart.
When I returned home I prayed to have my paintings in which I had put all my heart and soul returned. The Lord heard my prayer and after 2 months I got a call from the gallery owner who told that none of my paintings had sold. I thanked God and brought my paintings back. Since then my paintings adore the walls of my house. I keep painting but do not sell now. Please advise if it is the right decision or what else should I do.
(RG note) Thanks, Kamal. My rationalization is that even though my paintings are on other peoples’ walls, they are still my paintings. And they are better there than in my storage. Letting other people share my work in this way makes it possible for my family to enrich our lives with travel, education, collecting and more painting. If we think of our work as our children, then these children need to be released to have lives of their own. Consider the words of Kahlil Gibran:
“Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.”
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Favourite warriors
by Stewart Turcotte, Kelowna, BC, Canada
I read today’s letter, and then went to the clickbacks to see some of Robert’s favourite warriors. A nice selection of stalwart companions, no doubt. But a warrior is many things; he is a champion, a knight, a trooper, someone who fights a struggle for the betterment of some part of society, someone who struggles on for a long time, perhaps a lifetime, to correct or improve a situation.
This is a photo of my favourite warrior. This man has waged a one man war for the improvement of the artist’s situation and for the unlimited access to information and communication for that long struggling class of people in our society. This may be a new class of warrior, the artist warrior.
“Share your knowledge. It’s a way to achieve immortality.” (Dalai Lama)
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Art and Poetry
by Alexandra Fajfer, Port Credit, ON, Canada
For a long time now I enjoy reading your stories, advices, tips, thoughts you share with complete strangers. I admire your paintings and appreciate time you spend teaching others what you have learned through your professional career, answering questions or to commenting specific subjects.
For this reason reading your letters is like being in your studio — I feel like taking classes. I have never taken any art painting classes or courses (except for years at school), even I understand I should.
Your work is remarkable. I sent a link of your page to my friend in Poland — he is a poet, too. He was really impressed with your art.
As it is spring, I am sending a poem which I wrote two years ago about the same time of the year we enjoy now.
spring is emerging from every part
of breathing soil
dressed in thoughts
we share about tomorrow
dressed in greens radiating from your eyes
and your cheerful smiles
freshness of what we say and do
like the new beginning of every day
like the water we drink while thirsty
from each other’s lips
and the hunger only you and I can fulfill
Spring 2010 — Port Credit
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All about the Tomb guy!!! as were the Egyptian/Sumerian/Mayan tombs…no one else mattered…no works of art were signed…sigh….probably under penalty of death:))
Its a good job his Missus didn’t tidy up after he died and chucked all his stuff away. An attic full of books and paintings doesn’t seem so bad now does it ?
Some things never change. If you have a bigger than God ego and enough money you can become immortalized. If that does’nt work claim insanity and paint starry nights. That works too.
So they were never to be put to use? I just learned about the Ghost Army…the the US WWII effort to put fake military vehicles in place, with sound effects to mislead the Germans. They didn’t go so far as terracotta or inflatable soldiers, but did put some painted curtains over truck interiors.
I paint traditional in China and not much in it for us. Everyone do the same over and over, not much individual expression except in university if taking but not much. Your site very good and friendly people. It helping me with English. Welcome to China.
It’s nice to have the idea that someone will eventually show up to look at our stuff if it’s good enough. I guess it’s like those glass Coke bottles that were all around 20 years ago. Glass Coke bottles are now rare and collectable. Who would’ve thought.
All cultures at all times have striven for some sort of immortality. For the time being it’s built into human nature that there’s a strong wish that the good stuff continues. It’s a nice idea. Unfortunately for all the promoters and those with vested interest in this idea, you are probably right; the only immortality is probably in what we leave behind. And that’s not bad when you think about it. And it’s not quite as selfish.
I was there but didn’t see them due to a tour guides choice to look at a flower garden instead????
In those days with ignorant minions in fear of you a guy could get things done. Now we have Democracy
We were there in 2004, it was fascinating. I understood at that time that each warrior was individual and each had a different face and clothing. It looked that way to me. I bought a statuette of one of the warriors who was supposed to be a general, and who my husband resembled. You must see the great wall, and cruise on the Yangtze river, there are so many wonderful sights to see. Go to the Shanghai museum, too!
When I was there it definitely struck me that the faces were portraits, perhaps of favorite generals of the Emperor or of soldiers who might have been attached to the royal household. I think the main quality he was looking for was loyalty.
Lucky you to see so many of these wonderful sculptures! I was lucky enough to see the exhibition of these terracotta warriors in Montreal a few years ago, and that sense of presence, power and personality was definitely there, even in the relatively few pieces that were on display. Amazing work!
There’s nothing like a death-dealing dictator to have as a supporter of the arts- is there? So truly- now we have democracy- and one of the unintended side effects of democracy- is mediocrity- where everybody’s art looks the same because the same teachers travel the world teaching the same techniques- which everybody copies. Time to make something that’s yours- and yours alone. Unless you believe that that’s not possible.
You didn’t mention that the Terracotta Army was only discovered in 1974 by local farmers when they were digging a water well about a mile from the previously discovered Emperor’s tomb. Previously, only occasional shards and pieces had been found–the Emperor had the stuff buried pretty deep. It’s the largest ancient pottery find ever.
I work in sales and consulting. Came across your ‘twice weekly’ about a year ago. Read it for inspiration and to push out the recesses of my mind. Thanks for adding culture, history and perspective to my day. From a suit guy who loves expand his chimp-like brain.
This is the most amazing forum on the Net. I don’t know how you do it all and paint too!!!
I visited in 1993 and 96. Amazing. Bowers museum in Santa Ana CA held an exhibition which gave a great overview of discoveries since I had visited. More amazing. But now you are there and there is no replacement for seeing the art in its place.
From what I have read, all the faces were of actual people. If you examine the faces, they are all different. Even more spectacular don’t you think?
If I was a despotic emperor, I would invite specific loyal soldiers and generals to achieve immortality by having their spitting images included in the great fantasy. Only I wouldn’t use the word “fantasy.”
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