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Some of us “try on” solutions by monkeying with a photo of our work in paint programs. It’s just another kind of mirror. I think mylar sounds funny, but if you are frugal with materials, it might work out for you. What I like is a stack of paper, or canvas to just charge into without regard to frugality. Mess them up! Paint over them. I like to paint gesso over old drawings on paper and recycle that paper into a nice loose oil on paper! It makes you feel wild and free and extravagant. Sometimes you get a nice painting out of it! Got a roll of gessoed archival paper waiting beside me here! Yippee!
“Nobody knows what’s under there” except when you’re a watercolor artist and the big mistakes are difficult if not impossible to conceal. Thus, the importance of planning (e.g., sketches, value studies, etc.)!
I assume a fair number of watercolorists read your letter! What about those ‘corrections’? Thumbnail sketch to get it ‘right’ would be one possibility. I’ve also seen Mylar used there.
Painting is not a job for the timid. And yes, Jack is right when he says it’s just another form of procrastination. Painters, in the process of developing, will figure out all kinds of ways to delay the business of going in there and fixing things. Maybe this is where the much vaunted “big ego” comes in.
There will be all kinds of painters who will think from your letter that Mylar overlays are a good idea. Unfortunate. The watercolorists have it right–figure it out and get it more or less right from the start.
Unless the work is going to be a clean crisp watercolor, a painting shows more interesting character with evidence of the composition being strengthened in mid-stream. One theory explaining Mona Lisa’s lack of eyebrows, is that the very thinly painted hairs have flaked off over the centuries. Lookin’ forward to a little single-malt libation myself this evening.
No matter what the media, experimenting with reworking the composition a la prima is not always such a great idea … especially if you want your work to look clean and crisp. Granted, the design could have / should have been settled with a thumb nail done before ever picking up a brush, but once underway, your friend Jack’s use of mylar for revision may save the painting from looking overworked. But then with enough libation, and who will notice?
When you’re working on a painting that just doesn’t feel quite right, it’s nice to experiment with different possibilities as to what could really turn it around and make it a great painting. The use of Mylar or some such material, is actually a great way of ‘trying out’ different solutions. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not about bravery, it’s about working smart.
As far as I would go with these sorts of shenanegans (Mylar, etc) would be a rough sketch. Doing a few of these beforehand, especially with broad areas rather than lines, gives an overall idea of how the thing might look and potential compositional hazards ahead. It’s also important not to make the sketches too definitive as you don’t want to expend your spirit or make too too many decisions before you get to the main bout.
From a 50+ year watercolorist to those who wonder about how to correct w/c mistakes. There are numerous ways, but too many to list here. I suggest those artists take a workshop from someone who has experience in making “mistakes” and corrections.
I can’t tell you how many times I have painted over or reinvented a piece of work. But sanding down an acrylic is new to me. I somehow thought it would damage the canvas. Of course we are NOT talking about a “belt sander” here! So I will try it. I have a piece that was rejected from two shows and then I started really looking at it. I SAW what the errors were and realized the rejection was SO valid. A learning experience for sure. Now I am trying to resurrect the piece. One can only hope!!
Love this regarding Acrylic – “no-can-do” with transparent watercolor, or even transparent Acrylics. For those, mylar is not procrastination, it is a necessity – either that or a new sheet of paper.
I smiled when you mentioned Procrastination. My new middle name! I look forward to your helpful hints. It was good to know others have the problem of where to put what. I thought I was alone in the problem of each thing I brush on a spot, then it becomes something I eventually will have to correct, change or try to cover up! It will be fun when I get started, right?
Your letter was exactly what I needed this morning. Stuck at home, and not at the studio where I’m stewing over a painting that was painted with an interested party in mind. BUT after many, many hours, it just won’t get right! My daughter said, “Mom it looks like two paintings”…and she’s right. So back to the studio it must go. I was hesitating sanding the thing down, my usual method and considered being more timid in its revisioning…BUT you are correct…it needs a good scrubbing with sand paper and a fresh eye to pull it all together. Preliminary overlays are too timid to fix this. It needs a lot more fire in the brush.
These mylar overlays —- very architectural —- the eraser is better.
When I am wondering how to solve a painting problem I have been helped by Photoshop. It allows me to see several ideas quickly and no bumps to sand off.
When in doubt, paint it out.
Not working in watercolor, I take it. There the rule is get it right the first time, every time.
Some still don’t get it. Watercolor is correctible. It’s nice to get right the first time, but it’s a myth that it’s got to be absolutely right the first time or all is lost.
Mylar seems like a great tool for watercolor artist…..much better to know than scrub out mistakes. I enjoy and look forward to your letters.
The commit and correct system is by far the best because it is dynamic and participatory. In other words the painter gets into the “zone” and evolves with each and every stroke. Other systems such as Jack’s are too mechanical and left brained and actually end up derailing creativity.
In the time it takes to fuss with Mylar just take a turp-soaked rag and wipe the error clean. Do so as often as necessary; it’s faster. We all edit our work while painting but surely drastic changes in composition should be decided beforehand. Looking at Sargent’s paintings as closely as the museum guards will allow, his strokes appear not only perfect in value but casually deliberate. The man is maddening. After reading about his technique we know he wasn’t perfect but seemed to be – such is the beauty of wet on wet, but particularly his mastery.
I saw a Degas ballet dancer with the legs of the dancer lengthened and moved. The old image was clearly visible where he made the change. The painting is still valued at $millions, I’m sure. I figure if he can do it, so can I.
Jackie K – I, too, get pulled by the coller by guards for looking too closely at the art in museums. Sargent (as well as many other greats) took great pains and multiple tries to get that “just dashed off ” look. He would make the same stroke many,many times, wiping it off until it had the bravora feel. That was part of his genius
You can also lift dry acrylic paint with rubbing alcohol. not perfectly but the affects left behind tend to be rather interesting! Put the alcohol in a spray bottle, spray the are you want to remove and let sit for a few minutes. The longer the acrylic has been dry the more you have to work with it. You can scrape off or wipe off the paint – before the alcohol dries. reapply if you want to remove more. Cheers!
I quite liked the idea of overlays, I sometimes use tracing paper for that very thing. I have a canvas that I am working on now that started out as a canola field with a barn, than changed to a couple of groups of aspens with swathed fields. That was when I was living in Alberta, Now that I live in BC it has been reborn to alders and is taking shape as the boat launch at Kennedy Lake. This particular canvas has been a form of yearly report card. Each layer has shown me what I have learned in the year gone by. My only regret is not taking images of each incarnation. I have included a pic of the unfinished alders. There is hope for all canvases.
Acrylic covers up all your sins.
Obviously, you are working in oil or acrylic. I needed no acetate when exploring in those mediums. But now I work in watercolor. I also teach watercolor. You cannot be as aggressive in your explorations in watercolor. So I use and show my students to use gel coated acetate in order to explore color and design factors. It allows people to explore more and gives them confidence. l always enjoyed seeing the coverups when shown in museum exhibits. Sometimes another piece of canvas is sewn onto a painting to permit a change in design. Masters got away with it. Can you or I.
A powerful message, including some great advice.
Lest someone be lead astray, while it is true that many mistakes in watercolor can be corrected there are some that absolutely cannot be. Try getting rid of a staining color sometime or getting back to the absolute white of the paper. It is simply not possible unless one is working on something like Yupo that isn’t paper at all. And there are some colors that can’t be wiped away even on Yupo. Shoot from the hip with oils….OK. Shoot from the hip with acrylic……OK. Shoot from the hip with pastels……OK. Shoot from the hip with watercolor…….you are likely to waste a lot of expensive paper and paint and live to regret it.
Jackie and Rick – I set off the proximity alarm while taking a close look at one of Monet’s haystack works while on tour in Adelaide.. how embarassing!
That was oh so true. I always told my workshop students not to “noodle around and just go for the gusto”. Lots of twitters and giggles always ensued!. Hudson FL
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Ha-Ha! I have a similar corollary: 99% of art is fixing your mistakes.