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Enjoy the past comments below for The plight of perfectionists…
I’m taping the quote to the frig “done is better than perfect” Freeing….. and I chuckle…..
I know one such perfectionist and it’s not me. Interesting read, but what really got me to comment was the “Esoterica” – I was expecting some reference to something in the Jehovah’s Witness faith that was relevant to this condition, but no. How odd to mention that the person was a JH, what on earth does it have to do with anything? I wonder if she was a Catholic, Jew, Baptist…would that have been mentioned?
Working in another medium (clay,specifically raku ) has taught me how to disengage form a piece of art i’m creating. You put time into forming,glazing etc. and then you hand it over to the fire.You have to let go.It,s the same with painting. I think the meaning of the word “Raku” in Japanese is,”You don’t get what you want”
Finola, the mention of lions laying down with lambs is indicative of JW heaven. The woman was perhaps continuing her legitimate wish for a perfect, ideal world, and she was doing her best to visualize it. One of the wonderful things about Robert’s writing is that it makes you think.
“If you try to be perfect then you won’t have time to get all your art out …and your paints will dry up!” (quote from a second-grade student :)
Perfect does NOT exist, at least not in the art world….and too many critics are like too many cooks. I love the second-grader’s comment.
Im glad to say that as I mature I have learned to remind myself that perfect is what is allowed given the resources available I find myself saying It doesnt have to be perfect. It just needs to be done. Very similar to the quote you gave! If I think something shouldve been different and/or perhaps better on a particular painting, I just remind myself to do it differently next time and MOVE ON!
I had an elderly student – one of many painting from a small photograph with the usual comments “but the photo has…..” One class she was really making headway with lovely hills of analagous colours and lots of freedom in her brush, and more water. My comments were encouraging and enthusiastic about what I could see as a major step forward – a real break-through for her. Suddenly she was flustered and shuffling her things – her reference photo had become buried! Success by ‘mistake’ – she had followed where the painting lead her and totally forgotten the photo – AT LAST! This lovely lady sat and stared at her work, quite stunned and thrilled at what she saw.
Busted! Perfectionism is my struggle in art, in all facets of life. And NO, Im not going for counseling. With a lot of reading of letters like yours Robert, I have awareness now, thats at least half the battle. I believe the origins of this disease came from a parent who was highly critical and the other parent who always caught me trying to take short cuts. If its worth doing, its worth doing well is the message no counseling can squash. This disease both defeats me some days, but on other days its what motivates me to try harder, go higher, expect better. I try to fight it off the most when Im struggling with completion. I use it to my advantage when I am problem solving. Where theres a will, theres a way also echoes in my head.
HA HA HA! That “fix it” was good! The letter…well…you must have been in my ‘studio’ actually …ever closer. “Perfectionism, over-runner of intuition and neutralizer of confidence…” you zeroed in, right on target! And how well you put those words together…to say it all. Thank-you!
The path of a painter is no place for a perfectionist. Only God is perfect. If we attempt perfection, we will never be happy and never reach our goals. Indeed, some of the most appealing and beautiful features in a work of art can be the result of an accident while painting, or a wild brush stroke that speaks boldly, or simply knowing when to stop and call it done. This is not to say that we should stop working hard to create good art. We cant allow our work to own us and cause us so much pain. And overworking a piece will ultimately ruin it. I know! I often dont know when to quit.
One thing that has never been a problem is advice dependency so Im not sure I fit into the category of typical perfectionist, but Ive grown into a very loose, relaxing, comfortable, non-judgmental creative place in my life where there are no limitations …. perhaps this happens naturally when one enters the age-young 60s! Now Im going to send this right off, before I overwork my thoughts!
Having a tendency to overwork a piece even as a potter, throwing a piece, well overworked with clay often means your piece ends up in the slop bucket, rescuing not really an option except perhaps in the reclaiming of the clay for a new piece down the road. I was asked once, Are you a perfectionist? I thought about it for a moment and replied, I dont know, does a perfectionist think they are a perfectionist? Being equally critical of my work as I am new to painting my question or comment is that I struggle somewhere between trying to keep it simple and perhaps spending enough time on a painting? I can only hope with more practice, and perhaps more workshops/instruction can help me reach a happy medium.
I usually stop short of where I think I should stop because it is easier to add and not subtract, although I have had to take things away. Idledale, Co
“Dedicated head vacuuming is in order.” Correct. Thanks. I’ll keep it in mind.
Dear Robert, this is the Best. Never thought of it this way, but now I do. I needed this thought. Thanks, Saint Marys, Georgia
Perfection is Death..
I painted Jesus once, for a black baptist church. they wanted a mural done in 3 days. i spent 2 days scouring National Geographic magazines for a face that i might use – finally found a face (much quicker than Leonardo did). I worked in acrylics. i had little experience painting people. Animals were my thing. it looked very unfinished to me. but the congregation loved it and hung it front and center in their church. i was pleased but still wished i could have worked on it longer. Perfectionism took a backseat to a deadline and hugs from every member of the congregation.
Analysis Paralysis……….that’s what I call my racket. So, here’s the thing to do: the same thing that Screenwriters are advised to do: Don’t have anybody read your screenplay for approval !!!! Unfortunately, the non professional artist (like me) goes to lots and lots of those wonderful workshops where instructors are all to ready to tell the students how to “finish” their work. It was about after my 10th workshop that I decided to stop listening and do what Balzac said: “a book is never finished, only abandoned.” And when I started just abandoning my work……and leaving it the heck alone at the first sign of liking it……and thinking it might be finished, I started to frame stuff. Funny, nobody tells you when it’s framed that you need to take it out, and rework it. Santa Barbara, Ca.
You made a lot of sense in this last bi-weekly. I quite often wonder how it is you have the time to investigate a topic such as this. Whatever or however, you are an inspiring writer and a fund of knowledge and most often wisdom. Toronto
Love the phrase “dedicated head vacuuming”. Glad I am not alone in constantly fighting the “babble” in my head! Your letters help the vacuuming process!
There is no such thing as “perfect art”! I take a good look at the professionals work — when in a gallery — a;lways find something–that leaves me wondering. At one point saw a cow — the body was much too long–think it was Rubins-n ot sure — but one of those famous ones — so felt much better -about my painting-there is always something left 2 be desired!!
I won a prize last week at a paint out. The fact that the juror liked it was terrific. The fact that I liked it was sublime. I had one artist tell me that he usually likes his own work about a half hour. I am working towards lasting a half hour. Perfectionism can be paralyzing. It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between a good hard critique and perfectionism. The measure I use is that if I DO something about the criticism then I am moving.
The Duke of Edinburgh once published a book of bird photographs he had taken on his many trips to exotic places. Knowing his limitations, he stated at the outset “If a thing is worth doing, its worth doing badly” – not something my dear wife can agree with however. Incidentally, his son Prince Charles published a charming book of his own watercolours, but with so many self-effacing comments that one wonders what he might have achieved had he had the right encouragement. Neither of them had pretensions about their pastimes, but the books provide windows into unexpected aspects of these otherwise high-profile royals.
You asked the question “so what do I know? You know a lot but none of us know it all. An acquaintance of mine was rejected by a Jury. I was well convinced with her artwork and stood for her. I was not a jury but an artist with a conviction of what art is. Eventually she was accepted and since then she has been receiving many awards and selling her art. What did the jury know? Probably a lot, but didnt open their mind to know more.
I’ve suffered from this kind of nonsense myself. I did acquire this addiction from another artist who is guilty of overworking a piece. She is my Guru. I learned how to paint from her. I finally managed to kick the habit mostly due to personal deadlines and getting enough paintings together for shows.
My “racket” is not about the inability to finish work. My racket is not being able to start.
Okay, I vacuumed my head. Now there’s nothing in there. Now what?
‘Painting like a child’ is a process that takes years to learn, unlearn and relearn. The sooner we can return to the ‘relearn’ stage, the sooner we will paint with ‘spontaneity’ and what I call ‘expressive freedom’.
Almost 40. That’s how many projects I have currently on the go. As Buzz Lightyear once said “you’re a sad, strange little man”. To my defense, some are reproductions of Rembrandt, where it simply has to look as equal as possible. Down to the impasto brush strokes. In other cases, I’m not sure if there is a defense. I’ve either started a work beyond my abilities at the time, and so they sit, waiting…. or I’m not sure. The introspection is ongoing. I have other rackets as well, maybe when I’ve solved this one perfectly I’ll go on to the others!!
I think it’s a waste of time ,waittng to be perfect. I have encountered would be artists, who are afraid to make a mistake in their drawing or painting. Perfectionism is not a good thing.
Most of my painting is en plein air. I have an unusual criterion for completion: when I’m bored, I stop. Later I either like the work or don’t. If not, out it goes. Usually I can make the decision to keep or toss on this basis: if I had the money, and didn’t have the painting, would I buy it for myself? I’m sure I’ve thrown out paintings that others would like, but I don’t particularly care. My significant other has pulled paintings from the trash. As long as it doesn’t leave the house (or garage), I tell him, and I don’t have to look at it….
More students – like the one in Judi Pedder’s class above – should lose or bury their photos. I definitively believe working from a photo directly (copying it) rather than using it as an “aide memoire” has become a trap to produce a lot of technically good art bu creatively weak art.
Perfectionism is realitive, we all have inherited a substandered measure which to compare ourselves, inherited imperfection, rather within our society or ourselves. The quest to give ..within such inbalance for the right motive, preseverence & enrichment to others truely is the gift. Rewards come OUTWARD…forever endearing.
The upside to all of this is that I’ve seen a market for both. Some like it overworked and very detailed and tight, some like the looser look.
It is often impossible to capture all the aspects of your subject in one artwork. Trying to include all aspects is perhaps what leads to overworking? That is why I like to work in a series, I can change the emphasis in each piece.
From Ghoulies and Ghosties and long-legged beastie…and perfectionists… May the good Lord deliver us! I am messy, quick and ambivalent about my work. Possibly a hyper adult at age 76? Is there anything more?
I am a recovering perfectionist…
I have just completed a painting that was to be the perfect picture and I could always find one more thing that bothered me. I finally signed it and will remember this letter. Thank you, I do enjoy your letter. nfkziggy@cable-lynx.net
I have missed entering our art guild’s show for the past two years “because my paintings were simply not good enough”. This seems to be something new that has hit me because I used to regularly enter three or four paintings. You have really given me something to think about. Thank you so much.
…and perfectionists…”may the good Lord protect (and deliver) us!” I am quick, deliberate and non-perfect when I paint! I like untidiness, paint dabs left unresolved, fag-ends and accidental effects. In the current economy. I feel wrong about all this! After all this time, should I opt for perfection? http://rodneymackay.com
Your letter came at a most opportune time. I have a number of students who are perfectionists and accomplish very little. I have a better understanding of the problem and can hopefully guide them to “get it done!”
I guess I’ve still got a streak of the dreaded disease but I’m a lot more aware of it’s dangers. Within the limits of my Virgoan personality, I continuously remind myself, relax, let go. It’s like when you can only see a star by not looking right at it .
Wonderful painting. Your use of detail is spot on!