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True Robert~ The curious can take them anywhere ther mind wants to take them, value is in value. Never a secret..time itself validates worthiness. Always standing firm, beyound expectation…for expectation. Do really the “common people” rely upon those who seemingly excell? No…truely it stands beyound ourselves to trueness. Which is the value passed on.
I’m a self-confessed information junkie. My wife cannot comprehend why anyone would get pleasure out of sitting around reading the encyclopedia. And yeah, the internet is even worse. So to follow Bob’s image a bit further, when I first hooked up to the net, I would follow information links, like Alice following her rabbit down the hole whichever way they went. Seriously, I couldn’t stop myself, there’s just an incredible pile of neat stuff out there. Nowadays I’ve managed to get some control of myself, but lord help me if I get going on looking at the work of other artists, I’m a gonner. And while I accept responsibility for my own actions, you’ve got to know that this site can suck me right in. Hey! Couldn’t this be that procrastination thing Robert was writing about? If I don’t post this message soon I’ll have wasted another evening.
In my day job working in a University library I am witnessing this democratization of information from both sides. Whilst I relish the idea of total freedom to find, use and comment on whatever floats your boat I still think that there is a need for the user to interpret what he/she finds with a modicum of care. Like reading a newspaper you go seeking information but you also must be aware of the writer’s position on the subject. You see what he sees through his vision initially. In my guise as artist however I think of myself AS the interpreter, the presenter of a position and hope that the viewer appreciates that position. It is like the difference between a photograph and a painting. Although the photograph is definitely still an image seen through a different frame it pretends to a reality that the painting doesn’t care about. When each of us sees we see with different eyes, different scenes, in different moods, to capture that moment floats my boat.
This laptop I am using is now my main means of accessing the world. It used to be the public library but that too is becoming a source of information that will soon disappear. Books can now be downloaded and read on a variety of electronic gagets. Videos of art and art instruction can be view on this laptop too. I have always been curious about almost everything I can think of and this laptop has now become my major source for information and locating friends I have not heard from in years. I still have several book shelves of books on art and other subjects. I have to admit I still like to crack the binding on a daily basis. Next to this laptop there are three books. If the electricity fails or the battery goes dead I still have my books.
“They” have been predicting both “the end of history” and “the death of the book” for years but they both seem to totter along. I accept I can access all these letters online but the feel of the books Robert (and team) put together is special. I’ve seen individuals who sniff the brand new paper of a bound book or stroke the leather binding of a volume. Very few people stick their noses in a computer (not willingly anyway). Art and creativity may very well be more than just a visual medium. The sensesurround artist : scratch, sniff and spatter.
Curious and ambitious students can get more out of open education. As an instructor in a well known art school, I can attest that many, not all, get more value from a short workshop with a willing professional artist at work outside the mainstream art-education system–particularly if the student needs and wants to go to work in the field. Like surfing the Net in a motivated way, they take what they need and move on.
On many car rides my husband Sinisa has to suffer listening about things like distribution of lactose intolerance in the world, origins of Slavic tribes and their ancient connection to Swedes, root causes for the Tootsy genocide, mechanism of absorption of iron in human body and why that is especially important for males just some of my latest topics dug out from Wikipedia. I think that Sinisa misses the old days in the car when he used to talk and I used not to listen. The way I see it, the more time people spend learning useless information, less time there is to get yourself into any kind of trouble. Maybe internet will eventually heal the humankind from making wars?
Your last thought in the Esoterica – and the way you wrote it – gave me one of those chills that starts at the neck and goes down both arms. Just occurred to me that I could let you know that there are SO many people enjoying your good, good letters that you never hear from.
Thoreau, Emerson, as well as many signatories of the Declaration of Independence were autodidacts. We have lost touch with what it is like to be curious and turned education over to unions.
Isn’t it wonderful that we can mutually google one another?
My family criticizes me for spending so much time on line. My dad thinks I’ll be kicked out of art school because of it. But this is where i get my ideas and it’s where I find out what’s happening. Networking is the new normal. New Jersey
There are no fundamentalists (that I know of) in my fundamentals class. Does this mean anything?
A question to R. Fennell re: getting your “ideas” online – aren’t these the ideas that others have had? What do you do to make them your ideas? Is your father concerned that you will be “kicked out of art school” because you are spending too much time online and not enough practising your chosen vocation, or is it because he is concerned that you are plagiarizing (or appropriating, as it is now called) from others who make take offence, or because you are not working hard enough at creating your own ideas? While art school presents a great opportunity to learn from masters, I would suggest that you learn their craft and bring your own ideas, distilled from your experience, insight and imagination, to your work. Just a suggestion.
Your vocabulary is a delight to me. I am an autodidact, or dare I say it, a polymath. What fun to have words I can use in expressing my own concept of myself. I don’t do a web page, but if you care to look, see Tivoli Artist Co-op in Tivoli, NY.
A polymath (Greek polymathēs, πολυμαθής, “having learned much”) [1] is a person, with superior intelligence, whose expertise spans a significant number of different subject areas. In less formal terms, a polymath (or polymathic person) may simply be someone who is very knowledgeable. Most ancient scientists were polymaths by today’s standards.[2] The terms Renaissance Man and, less commonly, homo universalis (Latin for “universal man” or “man of the world”) are related and used to describe a person who is well educated or who excels in a wide variety of subjects or fields.[3] The idea developed in Renaissance Italy from the notion expressed by one of its most accomplished representatives, Leon Battista Alberti (14041472): that a man can do all things if he will. It embodied the basic tenets of Renaissance humanism, which considered humans empowered, limitless in their capacities for development, and led to the notion that people should embrace all knowledge and develop their capacities as fully as possible. Thus the gifted humans of the Renaissance sought to develop skills in all areas of knowledge, in physical development, in social accomplishments, and in the arts. (from Wikipedia)
Brigitte: He’s not worried about plagiarism, and I’m not either. He’s thinking waste of time. Ideas breed ideas. On the net they come fast and furious.
I am so enjoying both books you mailed to me. They are so enriching, nurturing, supportive. I feel as though I am getting my life back each time I read a letter. And I read one or two each day and savor them. I’ll read one in the morning and one before I go to sleep and feel so comforted, I think to myself that Mr. Genn is Heaven sent.
R Fennell, I agree, that’s exactly the value of internet – sharing of information and building on top of the existing knowledge. Bob Genn once said, or quoted someone who said that all great artists stand on the shoulders of those who came before them, wonderful precious ancestry otherwise the whole thing of internet, education and other public media would be useless. Don’t let the self-proclaimed ethics police rain on your parade.
Arthur C Clarke’s statement is convenient, and as true as a person’s belief in magic. I doubt if Clarke would say of such a “sufficiently advanced technology” that it was magic, but only indistiguishable from our quaint notion of magic, which is invoked when our understanding is overrun. Personally, I don’t believe in magic, and all the various mystery systems (including the religions) that are based in the extra-normal. They have a tendency to cut off learning by positing solutions to question and problems that are often very engaging and terrifically encompassing, but, historically speaking, very often incorrect, falling into a wide variety of logical traps and fallacies.
Who knows what the future holds for the internet on earth or in space. It is a hard core part of our lives now and will only develop and morph into greater things. It is a valid tool, I’ve been on it for several decades, literally. I`ve learned more than any doctor would ever tell me about my ailments and avoided many thousands of dollars in medical bills. I feel so much better, the doctors hate the internet because they are feeling replaced. I have learned so much as an emerging artist from blogs, forums, websites, art associations and contest online than I ever could running around taking workshops. But, I spent way too much time wandering aimlessly from link to link and a little bomb was ticking at the back of my mind after awhile. So, I have begun to portion myself as a result. There must be more time spent painting and just doing things on earth besides sitting with the laptop. The web is a spider`s web, if you jump in, it`s sticky goo can and will trap you.
Hi, Robert! I’ve enjoyed receiving your e-newletter so much! However, you’ve really outdone yourself with the photos (with commentary) of you and your granddaughter Zoe painting together! Thanks so much for these great fun photos!! Now, what will her teachers think when she is able to produce a phenominal painting, far beyond her years, on kindergarten paper with poster paints!?! I wish I could witness that surprise! I love it! :) Shayla in Southern California, U.S.A.
Zoe’s abstract is as good as any I’ve seen. Will you be my grampa?
So many wonderful, juicy ideas today! I too love Robert’s distilled wisdom, and the thoughts that it brings out. When I read these blog notes, I feel there is hope for the future. I laughed at Tatjana’s comments re her husband (kindred spirits, I do the same to mine!!), and as far as the student in art school online a lot of the time, I disagree that seeing what others are doing, is a waste of time, or plagiarism: the Impressionists borrowed from each other and observed the world in their group way, and all benefited from the “cross-pollination” as I like to think of it ………. It’s not copying, but inspiration and priming the pump. Nothing happens in a vacuum. And, I loved Zoe painting with her granpa! That is wonderful, and she is learning from the best and experiencing creativity at a tender age! All uplifting and makes me want to get my brushes out right now!
How did you keep little Zoe from sticking the paintbrush in her mouth? I’ve done this with my niece Ella, and she was quite determined to sample a brush loaded with paint.
My husband and I, grandparents too, loved reading your comments about painting with Zoe. We think that it has the potential to become the beginning of a series called “Painting With Zoe”. How fun that would be. Check with Zoe and see what she thinks. Have a wonderful day. Thanks for sharing so many facets of your artist life with all of us.
Oh, that is so adorable and such a great idea – I wish I had thought of it when my kids were using high chairs, I might have gotten more painting done! It would be fun to hang those side by side!
Zoe is a wonderful looking little girl. But, then again, we all have the best, most talented grandchildren in the world, don’t we? My favorite work of art is a painting my grandson did for me when he was two! Once matted and framed it became my bestest, ’cause it was painted with passion!. ~~Kathleen
what a wonderful grandfather tks for the sharing robert
A light came on when I saw the photos of you and Zoe painting together. I, too, have a grandchild in a high chair and can’t wait to hand him a brush! Thanks, Robert.
Zoe looks like an artist genius just waiting to bust loose. And they all thought Michelangelo was a genius because he started when he was seven or eight. Pshaw! Zoe has him beat by a mile.
What a lovely site, grandparent and child painting side by side! I always tell parents who ask me about giving art lessons to their children, no…just give ’em the materials, lots and lots of materials, and let them go to it. They will “teach” themselves, rather than somebody imposing on them, or unteaching them! Thanks for sharing these personal moments with us Robert! You are a GEM, and so is Zoe!!!
Dear Robert, What a beautiful granddaughter you have and I was going to name my daughter Zoe, love that name, but, I was blessed with two wonderful sons. I know you will have many painting sessions with her. I started my own grandchildren about that age with painting. I see an outstanding abstract she has already painted. You are a very proud Grandfather and we share your joy.
Telling an artist not to use the internet and come up with their own ideas is like telling a child not to go to school, not to learn to read. Would you tell a student not to use the encylopedia to do research? I don’t see how the internet is not just another vast repository of knowledge which artists can use to bounce ideas off ideas. Check out the paintings of Julie Mehta who was just in The New Yorker. She researched thousands of architectural sites which she used as an underlying grid for her large paintings. Where do you think originality comes from? It doesn’t appear in a vacuum. The more ideas we have bouncing around in our little heads, the greater the muse will whisper. Go R. Fennell. go!
Brilliant “Red” painting. Exotic without any of the sinister overtones usually found with full frontal work. Good taste be our friend. Marvellous.