Art is not entirely a matter of trying to equal or better what others have done. There is some room to do what pleases yourself, and hopefully viewers. There are 2 comments for ‘Color thought’ by Sam Liberman Sorolla and the camera by Jason Rebrick, Vienna, Austria As a young man, Sorolla’s work was admired by the well known society photographer Antonio Garcia. Sorolla worked for a while in Garcia’s darkroom, developing his films. They became good friends and Sorolla married Garcia’s daughter Clotilde, with whom it appears he had a long and stable marriage and three children. Later in life he painted a portrait of another good friend, the photographer Christian Franzen. Sorolla would have knowledge of cameras and may have engaged one of his photographer friends to take candid reference shots for him. In those days gaining honours at various salons and winning medals was important to many artists, and Sorolla was no exception. In the closely watched and competitive environment of the salons it was important for painters not to be seen with a camera, and Sorolla was probably conscious of this. At the time, more rebellious painters like Edgar Degas (1834-1917) were avidly exploring the use of the camera as a tool in painting. (RG note) Thanks, Jason. There’s a virtual tour of the Sorolla Museum in Madrid here. If you go there, make sure you go upstairs. You can’t order perfect light by Jackie Knott, Fischer, TX, USA Equally, we must understand what we see at the opposite of magic hour — either midday or an overcastday. Shadows are flat and colors are washed out but more than anything it is the lack of contrast that makes the painting harder to execute. The play of light over any subject makes it exciting to paint. I know my Grand Canyon Mules would have been a superior painting with distinct shadow but I was there at the moment they came down the Kaibab Trail. Not take a photograph just because of that? Of course not. It was either then or never to have the reference or the painting. They were too perfect to pass up. One wonders how many times Sorolla went to the beach on days when the light was poor and without such rich subject matter. Sometimes you can’t order perfect light and perfect scenes. You must go with what you have. There is 1 comment for You can’t order perfect light by Jackie Knott Peaceful and pleasant pastime by Fleta Monaghan, Asheville, NC, USA This letter touches on something dear to my heart. Knowing your pigments is so important when finding just the perfect color. You reminded me about the idea of a Mother Color, something I had not thought about for a while. The idea of sitting quietly looking at a sunrise, or making little swatches of the color one sees sounds like the most peaceful and pleasant pastime, and one that is sealed in memory. Next time I awaken at 4am, I will make the most of it by sitting on the patio watching the sunlight spread over the mountains. Sorolla refreshment by Lin Souliere, Bruce Peninsula, ON, Canada What a wonderful treat to go to the Sorolla website and read about the artist and see his works. I had not heard of him and felt inspired by his use of light, something which is the main subject of my painting. It was a link to the world of an artist’s mind and feelings that I often crave in the solitary search for my own path. I am currently struggling to know what it is I am trying to achieve with my art, feeling smothered by outside comments and, although I realize well intended, suggestions. Some days what I need is to be lost in a sea of work that is new and inspiring, nothing familiar at all. The words and images about Sorolla achieved that for me this morning, and I am grateful. There are 8 comments for Sorolla refreshment by Lin Souliere Painting in the land of light by Stephan Giannini, Italy I am still in Italy. I spent two months in Rome and had a great time painting up a storm. The best part of Rome was the wonderful artists I met and painted with there. I wrote a blog post about that including some advice on how to meet fellow painters anywhere. And of course I saw a lot of extraordinary art in Rome. There are some great museums, especially the Galleria Borghese and the Galleria Nazionale d’arte Moderna. An unexpected surprise for me was the wonderful collection at the Palazzo Massimo. I hope to spend more time in Rome in the future. I’m posting my works on my DailyPaintWorks Gallery. Right now I’m in Naples, after having traveled through Sicily. It’s a uniquely interesting city, and the sketching is great, if I don’t get run over by a crazed scooter driver. Ciao!
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I just looked at Sorolla’s work which is posted on the clickback, and I find myself a bit uncomfortable with all the naked young boys portrayed in those paintings. Is it just me?
Yes, it’s you and all of the North America. The rest of the world doesn’t have that problem.
Dear Anonymous, What you are suggesting but are afraid to put into words is that because Sorolla has painted a bunch of NAKED BOYS he’s not only a homosexual- he’s also a pedophile. Your discomfort with these unfounded suggestions is YOUR discomfort. Who knows! Maybe he was a homosexual. Many artists are. Maybe he did like young men. So did Michelangelo and Leonardo. Girls used to get married between the ages of 13 and 18 a whole lot. Puberty makes that possible. Victorian prudery is alive and well. Get over it.
Young boys/men do not loll on the beach naked today, and I’m quite sure they did not in in the early 1900’s, which means that Sorolla did not paint reality, but his fantasy. The motivation for such paintings diminishes (in my mind anyway) the ‘art’ that is otherwise present in his skillful renditions.
Late afternoon light lends such a beautiful glow. If warm paintings are automatically more appealing (and therefore more popular) than cool ones, then surely this is a condition worth learning to go with.
Mr Genn is right, there is nothing magic about the color relationships that take place in magic hour. Only laziness keeps potentially great painters from learning these subtle relationships. Paintings really sing when they have it.
Thank you for the valuable lesson on “swatch painting” and “relationship swatches”. Being an amateur I have not really done a great deal of work nor have I studied in a school of the arts. I am not versed with techniques and other methods to make my work more interesting. I am learning so much with your letters. Thank you very much.
Onwards on Hollyhock invitational call to action video, makes me think don’t we spoil nature, what are we like! Hail isolation.
All my childhood in the mediteranean we used to spend all summer on the beach – naked. I got my first swimming trunks when I was about 12. Nobody in my village would have spent money on swimming suits for children, it was unheard of.
High key sand and beaches are ideal backdrops for strong figurative forms and interlocking patterns. Does anyone know from the literature on Sorolla if he used a Kodak to get reference material? Many of the views of children look like he might have been standing over them looking down. Also, black and white photos would be ideal for the basic drawing on which he might add his brilliant understanding of color. Just wondering.
According to Mike here- what Sorolla saw and painted- is still common today. So anonymous too- you have NO MIND- only a set of prudish beliefs stuck in your likely religious moral code. And both you and anon were likely abused by a heterosexual male.
Comments such as “you have no mind,” and assumptions about prudish beliefs and religious moral codes are extremely rude – especially when one has never met the person they are directed to. It’s difficult to believe this is the kind of dialog Robert expects on this outstanding web site about art. Someone’s small-mindedness is showing and it isn’t a pretty sight.
Seriously, Bruce Wilcox, your posts are simply hateful. Obviously you have issues from your own childhood. As you would say, get over it!
Simply hateful- or simply truthful? Issues from my childhood? I was trashed at 8 for being a faggot by a group of mormon christians. Look online anywhere and you’ll see I continue to get trashed by heterosexists every single day. You? I worked through it decades ago- thanks. So now I can hold up the mirror to prudish bigotry so you anonymous folks who are both unwilling and incapable of putting you names on your bullsh*t can look into the mirror and see your own reflections! Fun! Huh! Robert’s edited me before- but not for a long time now! And he’s never thrown me off- so there must be a reason that’s the case. But your opinions of me aren’t it. I’m going to share a poem I wrote- called Rude…
Rude Anyone Who can label Somebody else’s Sacred Cow Bullsh*t Is usually Perceived to be Rude It’s the very first poem in my poetry book! Enjoy! © J. Bruce Wilcox
Ooops- I realized something else! Anon posts: “I just looked at Sorolla’s work which is posted on the clickback, and I find myself a bit uncomfortable with all the naked young boys portrayed in those paintings. Is it just me?” And then Anon too posts: “Young boys/men do not loll on the beach naked today, and I’m quite sure they did not in in the early 1900’s, which means that Sorolla did not paint reality, BUT HIS FANTASY. The motivation for such paintings diminishes (in my mind anyway) the ‘art’ that is otherwise present in his skillful renditions.” Note my no mind comment… So- Sarah- neither of these posters ever met Sorolla- yet both are making total judgments about who he is and what is motivations for painting what he painted- are. And they are totally negative judgments- but apparently- it’s OK for them to say what they are saying (about Sorolla- someone they do not know) but it’s not OK for me to turn it around and hand it right back to them- because I don’t know them- according to you. Sorry honey- BUT YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
And then I went home (a 10 minute walk- a 15 minute bus ride)(because my art isn’t supporting a home computer) and immediately thought of something else! So here I am back at the computer! First you have an anonymous poster doing something I’m going to refer to as ‘casting aspersions’ (Websters: asperse- to attack with evil reports or false or injurious charges) in the hopes that ‘she’ will find someone else on here that agrees with her ‘discomfort’ that will then allow the seed she hopes to plant- that Sorolla is somehow a pedophile- and therefore a PERVERT- take hold. And this is so she can get confirmation that she must in fact be right- and therefore everyone else will then agree with her and DISCOUNT the artist the she has decided (without knowing him) (and without being able to ask him and without him here to defend himself) is bad. Unfortunately- she got 2 people- both men- including me- who were both willing to use at least our first names- who immediately called her on her erroneous judgment. But she did then get another female (please tell me if I’m wrong about your gender) to agree with her aspersion and in fact make further comments that she’s just absolutely sure about Sorolla’s motivation- (but his fantasy) and that she has now also decided that Sorolla must be bad. And all of this is moralist religionist passive aggressive sick behavior- something that’s really easy to do if you can post anonymously- because you think you’re safe and will be able to get away with it without anybody saying anything that might be construed as RUDE- because we all live in a polite society- even though the behavior exhibited by said anon and anon 2 is anything but polite. Unfortunately- I don’t let anybody get away with anything- because I have nothing to lose- because there isn’t one person in here who’s ever bought something of mine- and you can’t do anything to me anyway. I’ve written a book about my perspective on things just like this. And I put my name on everything. You put out crap and I mirror YOUR CRAP right back at you.
Get some therapy! You are a sick little man!
If I’m not mistaken, the purpose of this web site is to provide a forum for discussing art-related matters. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including those with which you do not agree, Bruce. It is not necessary to be personally insulting in order to disagree with each other. Doing so is not productive; it simply turns people off. As for Sorolla, I neither know nor care what his motivations were; I love his work for the masterful way he captured light. Isn’t that what we should be talking about?
I didn’t start the bull- Anon did and then Anon2 seconded it. I just finished it. And quite frankly I’m sure Robert hopes for the conversation that is beyond the art dialog- though I don’t think he saw this one coming. He’s not a prude. And anon2- I’m 6’4″ and almost 60 years old. So I’m a BIG MAN- who has suffered through 5 decades of your religionist moralist crap- directed at me and making me the pervert- and it’s YOU who needs therapy- not me. Your reality is dying, and I’m the one pushing it over the cliff. Note this week’s Supreme Court decisions. And you’re welcome.
Evening in Lake Placid oil painting, 30 x 30 inches by Aleksandr Fayvisovich, New York, NY, USA |
Thanks for the good explanation. I was always wondering why I don’t enjoy whole day plain air outings. Good stuff only happens at the end by which time I am already exhausted trying to make a dull scene exciting. It’s a good idea to save the energy and go out in the afternoon.