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Great Article! I just switched to Gamar Varnish which can be applied within four days of finish. Used directly it is high gloss.The gloss can be controlled by adding 1 part Turpenoid to two parts Gamar–which makes for a sparkly finish. It is noted to date the date of the varnish so future conservators will know how easy it is to remove this preserver.
Hi Robert, I just read your comments about varnishing oil paintings. I have a question if you could possibly answer, What type/name of varnish could I use that is not gloss? I prefer to have a final varnish that would protect the painting and one that is not a high gloss. I have used Windsor Newton Retouching Varnish when painting was dry, and now a year later would like to do the final varnish. I have been unable to find a varnish that isn’t high gloss, can you help me?? Thank you, Judie Gill jrgill1@darientel.net
This is exactly the information I was looking for! I started a discussion on Linked In about varnishing just yesterday. It seems most do and some don’t. What are the disadvantages of not varnishing? Is it mostly about even shine? or actual protection? from light? or what? thanks so much for your insights.
What bad thing happens if i varnish too soon? Right now using soluvar and I varnished too soon(a month for oil) but I don’t see a problem yet – will I?
I have been using Liquin both as a medium and a final varnish. It does speed drying and is not useful for glazing. It can be applied as soon as the painting feels dry–just a few days. It is quite shiny and I would rather have more of a gloss. I often ship my portraits great distances and people do not want to wait six months, nor can they easily return for later varnishing. What is your opinion of Liquin?
Get away from all of this. Switch to watercolors (or watercolours if you prefer). Of course, there is the matting and glass. But the work is fast and fun!!
hoping to hear your reply re LIQUIN…as an additive…Ive never used it as a protective measure…only an additive. Winsor and Newton advised not to use it in waterbased oils. I do my underpaintings with acrylics and finish with oils. (not water based) looking forward to your response re additive
“Protecting Your Paintings” struck a chord with me. I am a watercolor painter and have discovered Yupo (synthetic paper) as a ground for my watercolors. After about 3-4 years of a learning curve on this challenging surface, I’m hooked. My problem? I need to spray varnish the finished work to protect it from any moisture – even after it’s framed (condensation, etc.). And as a result, cannot enter some of my art associations’ shows because their eligibility clauses contain the phrase…’water-soluble media on paper, UNVARNISHED…’. but in the same paragraph, they do allow acrylics on paper, which are not water-soluble after they dry! And we all know that acrylic media are routinely used as a final varnish in many cases – no mention of that being prohibited. Why the discrimination? I email-argued back and forth on that point with one major w/c society, to no avail – ‘rule are rules’, etc. So I no longer enter their juried shows, though my paintings used to be included in many of them. If anyone’s listening out there, I would like to suggest that they review their rules to include (or exclude) many of the new materials and media that have become mainstream in the 21th century. I have no quarrel with the associations/societies which maintain strict rules for transparent watercolor only, but when they include media like acrylics also, they’re muddying the waters, so to speak.
Oil paint made today isn’t manufactured the same as when the tube was invented and the 6 to 12 month rule applied. My experience has taught me that varnishing time depends on how thickly you paint. If you are applying paint with a trowel or pallet knife, the paint will take longer to dry but still not necessarily 6 to 12 months. If you apply paint in a semi-transparent or in a semi-opaque manner your paint may dry more quickly. I advise testing it by pressing the surface of a particularly thick area of paint. If it’s soft to the touch, wait a little longer. If it doesn’t give or feels hard, I’d say varnish no matter the time period. I’ve sold work being varnished after a month. Paint today has more flexibility than paint of old. Drying time also varies with manufacturer as well as application. This, of course, depends on the binder they use. Some colors, particularly dark colors also dry faster than lighter colors or white. Don’t use a “retarder” –this too will prolong drying time. A product called “Japan Dryer” (though toxic by today’s standards) speeds drying in a pinch, but I don’t use it. The thickness with which you apply varnish also affects drying time along with temperature of your space. I varnish work in groups and leave the studio right after with windows open. They dry to the touch over night
I opened this letter up thinking it was about how to insure your paintings while they are being exhibited. Do you have any info about doing that? Thank you.
OK, now I need to rethink all this. I have never varnished my paintings at all, liking the way they are as is and not thinking it was necessary unless you were an old master. May of my pieces are quick ones, most take no longer than 10-20 hours, some are on gessoed arches watercolor paper and framed under glass. I’ve been painting for all my life and have never seen anything happen to pieces I need to deal with. Why do I need to do this and what is the recommended way?
Hi Robert; just my two pennies about the drying time of oils; Mixing a bit of Maroger medium from Old Masters will speed drying time enormously; also mixing bit of it with all colors evens them out, so the sinking in of the earth tones is not as severe. Liquin from Windsor Newton will do the same thing, but I’ve been told Liquin is made from a polymer material, so is like a plastic. Also, M. Graham make Walnut oil with Alkyd added; I use a bit of this as a medium and the painting is dry the next session, usually overnight….
Would love to know how you remove varnish when you clean the paintings? as beginning to varnish some of the paintings have a yellow tone now..
Good topic, Robert…..protecting your paintings. For all the courses I’ve taken in acrylic painting, there hasn’t been much attention paid to appropriate mixes of paint with water and/or mediums. Yet I’ve heard that paint can lift from the canvas if used straight from the tube. And few teachers have mentioned protecting acrylic paintings with varnish. Any advice would be appreciated!
Funny??? Does that mean I have to dye my hair green and wear artsy clothes???
Have you tried water based oils? I find them to have the best qualities of both medium.
Oils are my medium of choice as I love their brilliance in color. As a painter for over 30 years I combine Oils and Alkyds which solves the drying time as well as the varnishing time. Alkyds are genuine oil color but they are made with an alkyd resin binder. They have excellent durability and dry to the touch in 4-24 hours. They clean up and can be used with liquin and all other traditional oil painting mediums. You can mix your traditional oils with the alkyds and in doing so the traditional oils dries quicker as well. Windsor Newton is the brand I use and if you Google them you will get more info. Great for plein air and travel. Also if you are into glazing they are dry the next day. They also can be used for impasto, palette knife painting etc, all the uses you have with your traditional oils.( these are not the water soluble oils) I avoid solvents and clean up with Murphy’s oil soap and water. I use artist paint thinner and not turps. Alkyds can be varnished in 30 days but must confess I have often rushed that time as well and have never had any problems. I prefer spray dammar varnish to avoid drips but traditional varnished can be used with alkyds. Enjoy your list Robert and thanks for all the time you put into it.
I started out painting with oils and found out I was allergic to turpentine. I switched to acrylics and used them for years. A few years ago I discovered M. Graham walnut oil based paints. They have their own quick drying medium and use non-toxic walnut oil as a solvent. I even use common, cheap cooking oil to clean my brushes. These paints are really a perfect compromise. I still use acrylics as a canvas toners and under painting with the Graham oils over that. I love them.
Yes. An uneven finish has the same appeal as a smeared TV or computer screen.
Regarding varnishing oil paintings:It has come to my attention from some nationally recognized and respected artists that IF THE PAINTING IS DRY TO THE TOUCH, AND THE PAINT APPLICATION IS NOT EXCESSIVELY THICK…that it can be varnished within a few days using GAMVAR (A product by Gamblin). THE REASON: In this case, the paint and the varnish dry at the same rate and there is therefore no conflict. Perhaps more cautiously, it would be even more advantageous to apply a “retouch varnish” solution made from mixing 3 parts “GAMSOL” to 1 part GAMVAR.
Please excuse my ignorance/stupid question – but – Can you/Do you varnish Watercolours ?
Hi Robert, I’d like to add a recommendation against using “blair Matte Spray Var: matte damar varnish for oil paintings, 100% pure”, bar code # 0 81569 30116 6. My paintings had dried thoroughly, in one case, 3 years (with relatively thin paint). Even though I used a new can, thoroughly shook it, am practiced in applying sprays, (continually moving, applying in 1/2-overlapped passes with starts & stops off to the side of the canvas), the finish was immediately irregularly blotched and the surface even seemed pitted. I had to repair the results before it dried by careful brushing on of liquid varnish. Fairly needless to say, I achieved results below my standard. Just to say, I did pre-use test spraying on a small area of a better-luck-next-time painting but clearly needed more tests (and more time before a deadline to evaluate results) before mixing my old reliable with less audible muttering.
A retouch varnish is a damar varnish that is thinned 50% with solvents. This allows the oil paint to still oxidize and form a solid paint film without cracking. An artist can apply a retouch varnish to an oil as soon as it is mostly dry to the touch and provides protection from dust, brings out the dead areas and is the form many prolific artists deliver their oil painting to the gallery or to the customer. Grumbacher makes a real good spray retouch varnish. A final varnish can then be applied in six months after the painting has oxidized and formed a solid paint film. You should come to our Art Material Expo in Santa Fe this September and meet all the manufacturers of artist materials, would love to meet you!
I minored in Art in College and have painted for many years, mostly with acrylics and watercolor. However, as a young teacher, I went to Europe to teach for the Army Dependent Schools in the mid 60’s..Germany..and a friend and I toured many museums over there and decided to do some paintings in oil. I still have my “Sunflowers” displayed in my home, but I don’t think I ever varnished it. I just dust it off with a damp cloth occasionally. After reading this article, I wondered if it is “too late” to varnish it, and if so, how do I clean it and what varnish should I use?. I enjoy your letters very much..
Dear Robert, I have sent large oil paintings (dry but pre-varnish) out into the world, announcing that they will need varnish in one year. In every case, the owners resolutely refuse to give me the chance to varnish them. Some owners are public, some are private. In one case I pursued the paintings and physically removed the art to varnish them. The major university simply refuses to return my phone calls and emails. Sad but true. If it gets out of your hands, it’s someone else’s to neglect.
Gamblin makes a varnish called Gamvar which they say can be applied as soon as your oil painting is dry to the touch and is also easily removed with Turpenoid or Gamsol. Just last week I was at a presentation given by a Gamblin representative. He repeated the information that is also on the Gamblin site, i.e., if your thumbnail does not dent the surface of the paint, it’s dry and can be varnished. Gamvar is sold in a solid state in the form of beads or small balls, and it comes with a second jar of the solvent that dissolves the varnish when you are ready to use it. They sell it this way to ensure that the product you are using is fresh. I have not been painting long enough to tell you how Gamvar ages. Gamblin claims that it will not yellow.
I enjoyed your post on “Protecting your paintings”. Since you now paint with acrylics I’m curious to know if you put a finishing coat of some kind of polymer medium on your paintings? If so do you brush it on? Have you tried a spray, e.g. Krylon spray? Do you like a gloss or satin finish on your acrylics? If you do use a finish coat is there a particular brand you have come to prefer? Lots of questions! Hope you don’t mind answering.
RE: DRYING TIME I’ve been painting professionally for a little over 25 years. Gregg Kreutz and one of his most respected teachers, David Leffel, encourage varnishing a work as soon as it’s dry enough to eliminate smearing. That allows the varnish and the paint to dry at the same rate. Through the years I’ve seen other favorable references to early drying in various how-to articles. Patricia Moran says in her first book that retouch varnish is perfectly good as a final coat, and I’ve used that even earlier than one can with “regular” varnish.
Liquin is my choice for both a drying agent and for the first protective coat of varnish. I’ve been using it for many, many years and during that time have experimented with other available products, but always return to Liquin. It is low odor, a small amount will speed up drying, it’s an excellent glazing medium and it can be used as a temporary varnish as soon as the painting is dry to touch. The surface quality it leaves has a sheen, but not a high gloss. It resists yellowing and the surface quality remains consistent unlike retouching varnish. And the brushes clean thoroughly with Murphy’s Oil Soap. Liquin is the synthetic resin medium used in alkyds. It is made by Winsor and Newton. One note: Liquin is not meant to be a final varnish, so the final varnish should be applied a few months down the road. Another note: oil paint does not dry, rather it oxidizes (or cures), a process that continues for a long, long time. An oil painting, even though not thickly painted, needs time to cure before the final varnish.
I use Damar varnish to protect my paintings and rarely varnish before six months. I don’t like to wait much longer than that due to dust. Varnishing leaves the painting with a nice even finish. I instruct the owner and they are usually happy to do it after being assured they won’t wreck it forever. I always had more problems keeping my oil paints moist with my tortoise pace … I solved that with a drop or two of oil of cloves (found at any health food store). I’ve kept my palette workable for a month with it. Clove oil also solves the issue of some paints being thick and others runny. I want the same buttery consistency with all of them. I use a half and half mixture of stand oil and turpinoid as a painting medium which helps dry the paints in reasonable time but not too quickly (1-2 wks). I’m suspicious of chemically speeding up drying time. Regardless, if you retouch please, please don’t use conventional retouch varnish … it will separate the layers of paint instead of melding them together. If I want to retouch a painting I simply “paint” my stand oil medium over the area and the newly applied oil paint will adhere to the previous layer. I’ve used this same technique for decades and have yet to have any of my older paintings crack.
This conversation has been so useful. Are there any workshops offering instruction on painting in oil without noxious turpentine or mineral spirits?
I have recently started painting in oils after several years of working in acrylics. I have discovered Gamblin’s Gamvar Varnish as mentioned by several artists above. I have also started to use M. Graham’s Walnut Alkyd Medium. You add 3-9 drops to each inch of oil paint. It is completely non-toxic, helps speed drying, plus gives a small amount of gloss which I like. So my plan is to continue to add this medium to oil and then also varnish with Gamvar when a painting is finished.
I have recently completed a 40 x 40 inch painting for an exhibition in April and have searched various sites for information on varnishing it. I am undecided both on type of varnish and method of application. Some sites advocate gloss followed by matte varnish, others an acrylic medium coat first, followed by a coat/s of varnish. Can you advise from your own experience? I realise you are a very busy artist but I would be really grateful for any help.
Hi Robert, As to applying a coat of varnish over a dry-to-the-touch layer of oils, I advise against. Oils take about 20 – 30 years to dry out completely, even the modern ones. The varnish takes what, 24 hours to dry. The problem lies not in what happens now, or next year, but what happens in 30 years. Excessive cracking, or the varnish pulling the oil layer away from the panel or canvas. If you don’t care whyat happens to your paintings after the bomb falls, well, go on, varnish all you like!
This is my first comment, I finished a water color and decided i would apply a varnish so used it in a small area I had previously used it to finish an acrylic painting. Well it almost finished my watercolor- it streaked and smeared the painting. I saw what I had done immediatly and was able to lift the damaged area removing the varnish and and original paint and clean up the mess down to the paper. I allowed the space to dry and proceeded to repaint that area the damage was repaired and I was able to save my picture. Word of warning if your tempted to have a shiny surface on watercolor use glass. Acrylic takes a nice varnish if it is added in thin layers after it has dried. A watercolor will smear. We all have those days I was just lucky I was able to fix it.
Field and Stream oil painting, 18 x 24 inches by Bonnie Holmes, CA, USA |
Gamblin also sells pre-mixed GamVar, so no mixing necessary.