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For Ryan in Tampa: We all need to continue to cultivate what Robert has expressed, however, the current market place is unlike anything we have seen since the 30’s. Many galleries are now working on new paradigms of the business of art just to stay afloat in this economic climate. As artists, we must continue to create and pursue our dreams. It is also time to be more creative in our thinking and in our dealings with galleries. I have gallery representation, but newer affiliations are unlike any I have had before. Many galleries are asking more and more of the artists in terms of fees, and many galleries who have been long standing will only take mid-career artists who have a track record, who have had museum exhibits, and have had their work published. I finished college in the early 70’s and then found myself teaching, ultimately returning to school for that degree. It supported me, helped my family and I still had time to pursue my painting. Today, art teachers are struggling to find employment. I have encouraged students for many years now to think outside the box and use their talent in as many creative ways as possible, because one must be able to be self-sufficient. The problems with the global economy are not going to go away overnight, meanwhile artists committed to their work must continue to develop. It is always a good time, in a downturn, to do this. However, one must be rational and reasonable and understand the economic climate in which we live. Talk with some gallery directors – the love to talk about their “new” ideas concerning survival. Look at alternatives to traditional galleries – cooperatives are everywhere now. Pursue your dreams while having one foot in that arena and one foot planted in the reality of today’s marketplace. This is what I tell all my students and this is what my artist friends and I discuss when we are together. It doesn’t mean you will not find gallery representation, but the way in which galleries work now is much different than they were able to in the past. Stay current, talk to people who are doing now what you want to do, and talk with gallery directors and owners. I am finding they love to share their new ideas and process. In my day, I made a living in education while still painting in the studio. Retired from teaching, today I paint full time and have representation, and take only a few private students. Pursue your dream and be practical. That’s my advice to new graduates wanting to break into today’s art market.
Dear Robert, We all want to live the dream of sitting in a field of lavender in France, painting dozens of beautiful paintings and having galleries clamouring for our work before they are even dry. Artists like Ross Bleckner raise the bar where there is an actual 2 year waiting list for one of his pieces. This is not the reality for most of us. We have day jobs and jobs that pay the rent. I graduated from Art school in 1988 and I STILL have a waitering job. I never know when a painting is going to sell and I always seem to need to pay my rent. I am good at what I do and I actually gain a few paying clients from this job. I met a woman a few years ago who changed my attitude about having to work in a restaurant. This woman counselled Prostitutes on how to get out of that world. She was once a prostitute herself. You would never know it as she looked like a successful business woman. I asked her what she said. She told me she told them to “Keep your regulars, just don’t work on the street”. I thought those were words to live by, keep your regulars. Having to go to a job and make money to support your family in this day and age is crucial. Having the luxury of carving out time to paint is important as well. I have always said, if you want fame and fortune, go sell Real Estate. But if you want to live the passionate life of an artist, go for it, just be realistic about making a living. John Ferrie
Unattached, you can focus all your energies on your art. The concert pianist can focus on honing his or her skills by studying music, and pounding the keys 10-12 hours a day. The sacrifice is loneliness. Top priority as a married man is to provide for his wife, and children when they come. The major cause of Vincent Van Gogh’s demise was lack of love in his life.
Very interesting to read your story, Robert. Thanks for sharing it. I find it hard to believe that things were as tough then as they are today. The world has changed a lot since then, the global economy, the demographics of our population, the internet; no, this is a very different world. The overabundance of painters, galleries, shows and available art, combined with with the ease of shopping online and being able to buy art for very little, not to mention the new reality of an uncertain financial system and future, makes the selling of art much more difficult. Becoming successful as a visual artist today is about the same as wanting to be a singer, or an actor. The reality is that there are an awful lot of very talented people out there who are not able to make a go of it and must support themselves with other jobs. Supply exceeds demand. Today, factors like contacts, opportunities and luck may have more to do with success than talent. That is today’s reality I think, for many of us.
In response to Suzette Fram, and the changing face of professional art-making: while in university, I had the opportunity of taking a course with Canadian artist Ken Danby. Facing 30 or so eager art students, and trying to get a handle on the class, he asked us a number of questions. One was, “how many of you are intending to be professional painters when you graduate?” At least 20 or so people put up their hands. Mr. Danby then snorted. He had the decency to avoid lecturing us on the challenges on which we were about to embark. That was when he was just on the cusp of recognition, some 40 years ago. Yes, things have changed, but supply exceeded demand even then. What hasn’t changed – much – is that work of quality will find an audience, and that people who “go to their rooms” and practise, in whatever field of achievement they choose, will improve. Thank you for your newsletter, Robert. I now have to go paint.
There are artists aplenty in my town. On the other hand, buyers are scarce on the ground. The art that matters most, here, is afixed to bumpers, or silk screened on tee shirts. I had a decision to make years ago. Stay, work on art, and starve. Leave, work on art, and maybe starve. At the time I had no idea of dragging canvases to major urban centers. Anyway, I chose the former, but avoided the starvation be eating judiciously and taking non-art employment. I’ve never regretted it. What I do sometimes regret is that I don’t get more sleep between my full time employments, art and non-art.
Supply does indeed exceed demand and 99% of artists can’t live from their art…until you get to the top. Over there, top paid artists can’t make enough stuff for hungry collectors, so all kinds of crap gets “manufactured”, as discussed in the last letter. What is wrong with that picture?
Holy Holy are early morning Creations abounding in rich color! Faith is in Art~ Believe in the mystery that is Life One cannot see the future, only God can , Miracle is, Happiness is in simply making Art and being Family, Simple…
I have never responded to your emails but this morning felt I must tell you how much you inspire and comfort the restless artist in me. I am an encaustic artist with a passion to paint and love of the art. Thank you for your candid wisdom and advise. It truly helps.
Robert you’re an exception to the rule and from the baby boomer generation to boot. Most gen-x or gen-y artists end up starving. We are the over educated under paid generation. I worked, made babies and painted when I should of slept. I own my own gallery now, but the road was very hard. I think art and creativity are wonderful gifts, but very bad career choices. Ryan needs to suck it up and get a job or else he will loose his young wife. Family comes before career. And yes even an art one.
I cannot begin to express how much this particular letter cheered me. And I am an ancient (almost 50!) writer who has been at it for a long, long time. As they say in certain circles, you’re doing the Lord’s work. (I like to pronounce it with a slight Irish lilt, so it comes out “lard.” Sweeter that way.) Thank you a thousand times over. For this letter and all the others I’ve been gobbling upand yes, passing onover the past several years.
Thanks Robert for this commentary. Very helpful. I’m reading some comments here of some artists who are pretty negative. It’s sad, but I guess the reality is that it is a bit of a numbers game as are all pursuits. I won’t give up, for the simple fact of, if others don’t buy my work, I love it enough for all of them! I’m painting for myself first. I think that we as artists need to promote fine art to everyone who will listen and create a demand. Subtly, and not so subtly in every conversation that it’s possible, steer the way to this message- Unless you own a piece of original fine art, you have no real taste. And while one piece is good, a collection is better. That posters are for teens, unlimited high-end giclees for very young adults, and original art for adults with taste. – repeat ad naseum. Get it into letters, articles, and on TV and radio if possible. The compromise and in-between stage, is numbered signed limited editions. They’ll get hooked. They just need to make that first “buy”. In marketing, they say that a buyer needs to be contacted and exposed 7 times before they buy. So contact and expose away. People buy fancy cars, oversized mcmansions, and cookie cutter throw away, but nice looking furnishings, all in an attempt to be stylish, and appear to have taste. They buy expensive haircuts, jewelry, and meals out. They have disposable cash for that. Those same people then line up for hours to see “fine art originals” in a museum. Sometimes they need to be led a bit. We need to send the message that taste is in unique style, original paintings and art. Repeating things over and over actually seems to work. If someone doesn’t like your particular art, thats fine, ask what they do like and recommend an artist you think they may like. And ask other artists to do the same for you. Create demand, and help fill supply- all revolutions begin small. If they can’t afford to buy it, can they afford to rent it? Pay on installments? Do they understand why it costs what it does?- educate them. Once they understand the value, the wallet loosens up. Can you diversify and create other products? Smaller pieces? I look around me and see art everywhere, not always fine art, but design at least. There are many great artsy “jobs” that feed the creative soul while pursuing fine art. And to all those who despair, do what the big companies that survive economic uncertainty do. Rethink, regroup, redesign if necessary, and persist. Maybe we need to do an article on a “study” that children who grow up in houses with original art are smarter? I wish you all prosperity, and creative joy.
Karla is right, love for family comes first which is why so few woman artists in the past. However may I suggest that there are many careers in the practical arts which allow you to continue to be creative, support the family, and then if you demand of yourself to hold on to the dream, that experience can inform a full time fine art career later. I was forced to raise my child alone and so had no choice. I became a very successful designer instead. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. Childhood is fleeting and they do grow up. You have a life beyond and if you put family first you will continue to have a companion to share your future as an artist. being an artist that is sustained by a loving companion is a special kind of power.
In her opening paragraph Lori Boast states “if others don’t buy my work, I love it enough for all of them! I’m painting for myself first.” The question raised by Ryan Foster related to earning a living from his painting. That means being able to pay his rent, buy groceries, and secure adequate art supplies to be able to produce paintings. I have to guess, then, that either Lori missed the whole point of the matter, or she pays herself handsomely for those paintings that nobody else buys. The rest of us do have to concern ourselves about actually selling our work in order to generate the income that qualifies as “earning a living”. Lori does, however, make the more useful suggestion to “rethink, regroup, redesign if necessary”. That process would include reconsidering silly prejudices about alternate ways of generating income, such as high quality giclee reproductions. Personally, I can only sell my original once, but there are, I’ve found, many others out there who have equally good taste as the buyer of my originals, who like the painting just as much but can’t acquire it either because it is already sold or because it is simply beyond their financial means. What nonsense to suggest that acquiring a work of art in a form that is affordable somehow reflects on that buyers level of taste and sophistication. My advice to Ryan, if he wants to earn a living at painting, is to leave any art snob prejudices locked up in the closet, and do whatever you need to do in order to earn the income you need in order to keep on doing what you want to do.
I have a question Robert- Where did you get the money to pay for supplies to paint 600 paintings in your first 6 months of painting? Because it doesn’t grow on trees- and I’ve NEVER had that kind of funding. Where’d it come from?
Ryan, your greatest challenge is personal. Have you expressed a commitment to your art whatever it takes, or have you vaguely talked about a relatively safe career? Did your wife marry an art student with no income and a mountain of student debt to manage? Hello??!!! Does she work (what is her passion?) or is she already hunting a tidy little cottage to start your family? You both need to sit down and have an honest talk about life goals and what you BOTH are willing to work for. I dont read anywhere in Roberts letter there wasnt a great deal of sacrifice and hard work and, by his wife. Recognize his experience is an anomaly. What, youre expecting everything to magically fall into place and youll ease into the art market with regular income?? Please . I once heard a rodeo announcer talk about what it takes to be a professional calf roper: Expect to be on the road most of the year and sleep in cheap hotels and eat in junk restaurants. You have to have a gas sucking pickup and a horse trailer. It takes a really well trained horse worth at least sixty, eighty grand … borrow that from a relative. And hope you have some really understanding in-laws and a wife with a good job. Nothing is easy. Many artists work day jobs (and still do) to become successful. Deal with it. And then when you do absolutely everything right and nothing you do produces your dreams live with it. Thats the life of an artist .
One more thought for Ryan, Lori and the other artists out there, in reference to Robert’s “tricks” for getting his work into galleries, and thence out the door: as Robert noted, in the early days his work was “marginally marketable”. That’s another thing to keep in mind. Once you have “gone to your room” and become a competent painter (or artist of whatever stripe you choose) another step on the ladder is to paint work that resonates with other people, the people who will fork out their own hard-earned cash in exchange for your inspiration and vision. Of course you have to love your own work, and you have to make it as good as you can, but to be “independent and self-employed”, as Robert wished to be, you have to, either, have an inheritance or understanding spouse to support you, or you have to make work that the marketplace will accept and embrace.
I always love to hear this story, but everyones circumstances are different. If I went to my room for 6 months to make art, I would have lost my job that feeds my family and pays for our home. I am from a low-middle class family. We work, we earn and we dont borrow. There ain’t no dough for living (and making art) unless we do our 9-5 of employed labor from the first day out of school lucky to have a good job. I could (and did) make myself a very unhappy person believing otherwise. I have met people that seemingly proved this wrong, but I dont really know where their money is coming from. My advice is to be realistic and do according to your means. Another word of caution – if you are from a working class and try to live the life of the padded, your money will quickly find a way out of your pockets. Ms Orman says first people, then money, then things. I say first family, then money, then art. Took me long time to accept that this is not a sad reality. Its a good life for patient people. I personally prefer the idea of good art coming from a good life than from a bad one, but everyone has a choice.
Good point by Robert. The wife will trust the cheques. So figure out how to get the money flow and everything else will be fine.
Robert’s path is similar to that of many. The important thing is first of all to be prolific, the second is to distribute widely. That way the artist can do what he wants and depend on volume and distribution to take care of cash flow. This concept does not work for slow or seldom painters.
Slow painters have to rely on making reproductions or prints
Excellent topic! I have been fortunate to have a vocation which has transferable skills (architectural drafting). The painting helps my work and my work, the painting, as we are constantly toggling between 2D and 3D thinking. By not having to live off of the painting, one can paint what you wish at the rate you desire. If you have to sell, you either must fetch high prices or paint in volumn. For me, it became a “fast food” approach of making as much art as I could wanting to have shows and sales. In anguish, I took a year off from painting and found that I needed to slow down – as it was a compulsion. In my case, that it was not about making art but gaining approval (which in our society is often given through selling). Certainly, there are fewer pieces and sales (didn’t sell much anyway), but the work’s quality is higher. This was accomplished by setting aside a dedicated time to paint with no expectation other than the time would be used for artmaking, which has helped me contemplate rather than paint and develop craft rather than product. My satisfaction is based more on my improved abilities to perceive and render. If one wanted to be a full time artist, this approach would not work but I have contented myself to do the best work I can in the time that is allotted.
When you see successful artists who have won national prizes and whose work sold out shows in New York for upwards of $10,000 a painting only six years ago, you would think that teaching summer workshops would be not be a high priority. But the reality is that even the successful artists are supporting themselves and their families by teaching these days. The New York galleries have taken a hit. Overheard at an art fair in L.A. by a major N.Y. gallery: “Most of my big collectors were hedge fund guys..” The recession drags on and yet the art schools pump out bright eyed graduates yearly. Many artists are grateful to the Jeff Koons of the world for hiring so many assistants! That may be why so many artists are creating large museum type works requiring multiple MFA’s glueing glitter or fabricating mountains of trash or moving mountains of sand: these concoctions employ many highly qualified artists and create a lot of buzz. If you’re the salesman type of artist, you’ll be O.K., but the shrinking violet and the anti-social artists are in for a hard time in this economy. Before getting married, a simple discussion about proposed sources of employment might be in order unless you or the spouse is a trust fund baby, and even then, those funds only go so far. Artists with good social skills will find teaching to be a good fit, but it takes a certain kind of person- you have to like being around people! Not all artists are cut out for the interactions required to keep students coming back and plonking their hard earned money down, especially not when you can easily sign up for workshops with top names who are very skillful in both painting and teaching right now. I imagine there’s a fair amount of competition right now for workshop & teaching positions. The art world is always looking for the next new thing as well, so past success doesn’t always translate into consistent sales. Collectors move on, there’s so much art out there to choose from. Times are tough. All I can say (to myself) is KEEP PAINTING regardless. Hold your loved ones tight. Use this down economy to do that which you always wanted to do – maybe it’s the most exciting, least commercial painting subject you can imagine. Now is the time. Paint for yourself.
Blue Venice oil painting by Bill Barnes, FL, USA |
Love your story, it’s easier to convince a sheep dog than a wife.