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With many artists, motifs arise by themselves. We can choose to put in personal spiritual and symbolic images or not, but to do it just for the sake of making our art more marketable seems sort of fake. Just two words: cozy cottages!
Would it be fair to suggest the late Susan Seddons Boulet fitted into this shamanic artist category ?
Finally, somebody with credibility is addressing this topic. Thank you, Robert.
What’s that stuff you’ve been smoking?
That smug phrase gullible Cro-Magnons gets me. It would appear that these early humans were more in touch with spirit than we are. A remarkable amount of work by younger artists around here (Tyler TX) is notably shamanic.
Robert, you struck a special chord in my life today. I am in the midst of “finding my voice,” getting over the doubts and inertia that have always dogged my art making. I am following Tory Hughes “Five Simple Directions” and at this point am setting my intention. One of my passions has always been prehistoric and primitive art, petroglyphs, etc. They move me in a way that I cannot adequately describe. One of my intentions is to include this passion in my art making — no idea how yet! but it will become clearer as I work through the process. The list of “considerations for a modern shaman” is electric for me! I have printed them out in bold colors and they are hanging over my work space! Thank you!
If we learn to listen to the earth and to her children through an open heart, we will re-member how to live.
Yes!! This letter brings to life what may be hard for some to accept, but the artist who has engaged in the magic of surrender and visionary pull will no doubt feel this is the reality. Thanks for sharing these potentially expansive portals about the experience of the mystic artist. I concur! :)
“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science.” (Albert Einstein)
Robert, thank you for directing us to the book you talk about. Life is so full of mystery every day; especially for the artist. How images spontaneously appear in our work has been a puzzle to me for a long while now. Is it from the brain or the spirit of the artist? Perhaps both have a part to play. However the images appear; it is wonderful to see in our work.
Were I to tackle a metaphoric sculpture of the Shamanic hypothesis it would be in Swiss cheese.
We must first admit that we do not know whether men or women were painting cave art. If you start with this most rational question, you should be very careful about making assumptions. The newest cave discovered, with art from 35,000 years ago is Chauvet Cave. It has no arrows, just hundreds of animals. It also has several depictions of the female human vulva. David Lewis- Williams is perhaps making things up? You say torch light, the evidence in Chauvet Cave says huge fires. Personally, I do not think my ancestor humans were mixed up with magic. They were mixed up with survival. As are we. You make a huge jump from cave art to shamanism. The cave artists depicted animals, and the birth canal. They suggested the real world. There is no hint of magic. There is no hint of shamanism. Check your facts. You are discussing human beings that survived an ice age. That suggests that they were tough, intelligent, and smart. I doubt that they had time for magic. Think. We humans are incredible. We were not born of magical thinking. We are the smartest apes that ever lived! We made art to prove it. I do not think that we humans made art to serve some shaman. The human goal is to be human. We make pictures! We sing! We die. Do not insult me with shamans. I am a human being! I walk this earth the best I can. I need no shaman, no ghost. I am a human being. My ancestors go back about three billion years. I am happy to live and die.
Peter Brown, you are NOT careful about making assumptions: 1. “my ancestor humans were mixed up with survival”: you don’t know that Peter; for many it may have been a leisurely time. 2. “human beings survived an ice age, which suggests that they were tough, intelligent, and smart”: you don’t know that Peter ; I have seen some pretty stupid people survive against many odds.
What an intriguing topic! I often work shamanically, which ultimately can be defined as how one lives ones life. It isnt relegated to making a piece of art. Cant be. Meaning, I strive to live in ways that a) honor the natural world and all its inhabitants, b) acknowledge my own two-legged humbleness and its proper place (often full of ignorance and ego and rampant, radical stupidity), c) keep me open to and connected with the worlds beyond the one we think we literally see. It means I have to surrender to not-knowing, I have to give up at least some control of the piece, I have to understand that it will emerge as it needs to. At the same time, I am the one holding the brush and working the support. I am the one whos got a deadline for a finished piece. Big paradox, full of mystery and mystical understanding that is beyond human ken, in the end. It also demands a far different criteria than the one used exclusively to determine good art, meaning salable art. Working shamanically can be an easy out for crappy quality. Which, of course, depends on the intention of the piece — if I’m wailing a soul longing using paint and canvas, that is decidedly not (necessarily) me getting the representational tree just right. Or maybe it is. Perhaps it’s both. I’m left with this: it’s quite the ride to have been chosen to be an artist working in this manner. Wouldn’t — couldn’t — do it any other way. Sing –hallelujah! — and sigh, deeply, at the same time.
Interesting! I’d like to comment on Peter Brown’s rational “debunking”. We don’t know the impetus that drove our ancestors to create cave art. But the fact remains that in lives (as are ours) focussed on survival, they found the time, interest and compulsion to create images. I would like to think that the images they chose were ones that were important to them. But image-making, itself, does not contribute to survival, so there has to be some sort of spiritual component, if we assume that these ancients were not just practising interior decorating. The point could be made that caves were special because they referenced female anatomy: entering a cave symbolized procreation. Image-making takes place for many reasons. In some societies, it is an uncomplicated pastime, perhaps a way to record one’s life and “keep” the important occasions within it. Some societies are very suspicious of image-making, and some attribute religious overtones to certain images. I think that, while we may all be “hard-wired” for religion and art, some people are either naturally, or by training, more attuned to those neural pathways, and perhaps, the images thus depicted resonate in some intuitive way.
What on earth did you mean in today’s column by people “consuming” art? Other than professionally arranged bowls of fruit, I was not aware of that much edible art on the market. Or are people acquiring art and then consuming it in bonfires, as the Nazis did? If I was a buyer of art of any style or media, consuming it would be the furthest thing from my mind. Robert Hughes said on a recent Ovation TV program (and I paraphrase him here) that the purpose of art used to be to remind us that there’s more to life than our everyday concerns. But the purpose of art today is to hang on the wall and grow more valuable. Consuming art does not align very well with either of these ideas, and for this reason I feel you’ve made a poor choice of words. Most of us are consumers to one degree or another but I don’t believe I know any art consumers. Santa Fe, N.M.
I have often thought that creative process is hard-wired in us in the same way that a need for religion or spirituality is. Particularly in the case of abstract art, because it carries ambiguity (and therefore mystery) and pertains to universal and timeless patterns and strivings that we cannot readily name. While realism may also convey beauty and mystery, abstraction strikes more deeply into the essence of creative heart and energy. This is my opinion, based on my own experiences with abstract painting. When I “draw” a subject, I feel the need for a measure of exactitude and the finite dictates of the moment. For me, this feels academic and quickly becomes limiting and boring. But when I enter the creative process in a spirit of adventure and willingness to confront the unknown, magic really happens! I become excited, animated, eager, and often my movement around the table or easel escalates into a joyous dance. I always feel, in that particular state, a sense of freedom and abandon, and a connection to what I would call the “primordial forces” that propel us all through life. It is then that I feel the vastness and mystery of the cosmos, the stream of human consciousness and experience, and absolute joy — all through my own tiny channel. Yet the idea that I can connect with this state of being whenever I will (or can afford to) give myself the time and space, is exhilarating!
For me, magical thinking and magical painting just happens. I wish it happened more often, but it isn’t something I’ve been able to consciously summon. Maybe your tips will help me call forth the magic. The painting I’ve attached is an example of unexpected magical resonance. It’s one of my open studio attempts to make the very typical and often-seen, open-studio pose more interesting for me as a painter. I painted the same model twice on the same canvas but from two slightly different perspectives. This is a strategy I’ve used several times, but the first time (this one) was the most successful. Not because it was the best rendering or the best composition, unfortunately, it was neither. And not because it was of the best model, she wasn’t. She was lovely but bored. Yet somehow the painting ended up conveying mystery and carrying layers of meaning, some of them downright sinister. A friend called it, “The Evil Twin.” I think he caught its atmosphere.
David Lewis-Williams’ ideas come very close to describing my artistic practice. For me, the connection between religion and art revolves around the experience of the “numinous”. The religious thinker Rudolf Otto defined the idea of the numinous as an experience that underlies all religion. It is a deep emotional resonance with something and I find it central to my creative process. The numinous is a quality that seems to exist outside ourselves and it is as though due to an invisible presence. My paintings usually begin with a numinous experience of an everyday object or a scene. The experience can be described as a feeling of being transfixed by the thing before you. It seems to exude an aura of meaning and existence beyond its apparent worldly one. A vital connection to it is felt that belies its mundane reality. There is a feeling of being caught in an electrical current, an energy that would convey its significance in the form of a feeling. I try to suspend the intellect and accept the reality of the unseen, remaining in a state of suspension where I don’t distinguish between what we think of as the real and the unreal, the seen and the unseen. Through the suspension of the intellect I attempt to maintain a state of receptivity in order that the unconscious can come in and guide me. Upon confronting the object, my eye turns inward to experience the response of the unconscious, to intuit where the thing has come from, where it is going and what wants to be associated with it. In this way, I attempt to create an image that joins the subject’s unconscious, archaic roots with its modern meaning. It is as you said – like conveying a trance.
Isn’t this what is happening when a painting seems to paint itself? Haven’t we all had the experience of working to express a vision that does not want to appear but upon stepping back and giving over to contemplation, the way becomes clear? Or when those magic strokes seem to drop off the pastel stick (or paint brush) without effort or prior thought? These are always the best works and come out of the artist’s cosmic connection to the Universe.
Every once in a while, things just appear. In this piece, it was only after I completely finished the jelly fish painting that I stood back and noticed all the female body parts and shapes. I have no idea where they come from, and I wasn’t conscious of them during the process. It’s never quite happened to me again, but I’m waiting for it.
I just love reading each and every e-mail you send. Every topic is so well written and thought provoking in just the right amount of words. Thanks so much for giving your artist community such worthwhile material to read and to whatever assistance you have in the way of staff. I’m not sure about your set up as it all just seems too good to be true. I am very selective of what I read but when your e-mail comes I am sure to open it before anything else. Thanks for sharing your insights along with your gift for putting it down on paper so well.
Lately I’ve been playing at bringing some spirits back from the past with an art form of my own devise that I’ve been at for about 11 years now. Movie and rock music icons to be precise. The ‘pixels’ are one inch squares of wood of various species mounted on a cloth backing. They hang loose and floppy and can be rolled up for shipping. I also do abstracts and geometric forms in this medium as well as abstract paintings. I wouldn’t call my work religious. It’s about connections. Person to person.
In your esoterica you talk about bringing entities and images for some other world or plain to us. In studies of Rock painting in South Africa and in Europe it seems the intention was just the other way around and that they saw these animals and images as a means for us to visit the other side. In many paintings the figures are actually hanging on to the tails of these ‘departing’ creatures and they seem to believe now that when these images are surrounded with little dots it indicates that they are spirit or heading into the spiritual realm. Also it is interesting that the same imagery and symbolism applied to the cave paintings in Europe and the early San people of Southern Africa. e.g. the little white dots surrounding images. This link between artists and religion has endured till fairly modern times and one thinks of Native American Indians symbols and totem poles, The Aboriginals of Australia and the all the symbols and deities of Christianity. Angels, halo’s and what God and Jesus Christ looked like. All figments of the Artist’s creative imagination…….or were they?
Inasmuch as most artists have delusions of grandeur, crave messianic power over others, we are all Shamans. You are on to something here Robert, I think, but I have to go tend to my sheep.
I have been asking myself many of the same questions you pose regarding the figures that *appear* on my paper. My work changed rather dramatically two years ago, after about 6 months of beginning my daily practice of Cosmos Chi Kung, a meditative healing martial art. I went from painting the flowers and landscapes in front of me in watercolor to painting from a more intuitive place with nothing in front of me but the paper and paint. At first the images that emerged on the paper seemed to be connected to my theatre and dance background, although occasionally a figure which seemed to harken back to my spiritual and religious training made an appearance. I considered that I might be cycling through deeply imbedded images in my subconscious, but ultimately with a shrug and a smile I acknowledged that the painting is telling me something about who I am. I believe that my practice of Chi Kung has opened the pathways that allow me to paint this way. I don’t know that I’m a Shamanic artist, but I do find myself talking about the paintings as if I’m just doing their bidding as they tell me what they want to be. I have to laugh! I do feel fully engaged in a creative process that constantly surprises me.
After some consideration, I find that Robert’s suggestions above are exellent. Who cares what our forefather did or didn’t do. Who cares whether shamanic is good or bad: the suggestions are great. I can’t wait to get back to my atelier.
We have a source of inspiration for this genre here in the American southwest. Rock art images that depict animal/human/spirit being interactions are common throughout the region. One artist/archaeologist has called these images “spirit windows” into another world. You might enjoy the American Rock Art Research Association’s web site that links to photos of some these images. http://www.arara.org/Photo_Galleries.html
It’s sometimes hard to put your fears, feelings, etc directly on the canvas/paper. While I was in Vermont (just an incredible residency, it changed my whole idea of my art and who I am as an artist!) I saw a crossing guard cross two children near an elementary school nearby and started a painting of them. I realized she was myself, letting go of my older son, who moved back for 7 months and is leaving tomorrow for Denver. So I was able to go with it and make it somewhat abstract.
Your essay on art as totemic icons really connected to the point of nudging me to write back, as that is a theme I have worked with for the past 10 years. I would love to invite you to peek at my website www.sukilew.com The portfolio areas of “Dancers”, “Birds”, and “Vehicles” all have been based upon that thinking. Art is a powerful spiritual clarifier.
Simply the best and wisest art forum on the net, this one.
In my daily meditations – apparitions and totemic images show themselves. I allow them to lead me somewhere, anywhere. Driven by the not knowing, shadows miraculously appear leading me into the magical awareness of self.
Cro-Magnons were likely to be even more fearful, ignorant and gullible than today’s crowd. Although today’s crowd can be pretty slow at times.
Although Cro-magnons were supposed to be smarter than Neanderthals living at the same time, who, according to some experts, had little in the way of imagination, and died out because of this shortcoming.
I wonder why you think Cro-Magnon man was fearful and gullible? I think that is a questionable presumption. Also, I wonder if it is appropriate to parallel shamanic trance with the religious state? I think we can probably language it a lot better than that although there is some overlap. As you know, Shamanism is widely practiced today, it is very current. Michael Harner, pHd is one of the respected key authorities on this subject. For any artist who wishes an good introduction to shamanism without drugs, Harners beginning course is probably the best available. Thank you for bringing shamanism to our attention
I read your letter with much interest. Twice I have been to France to visit painted caves. I was able to obtain permission to go to the prehistoric cave of Lascaux (not the copy) as I was doing research for my book Sacred Space, Sacred Sound: The Acoustic Mysteries of Holy Places. I asked to sing there and had a very altering experience. It was only afterward that I read the research of Iegor Reznikoff and Steven J. Waller that suggests that the animals were painted in the most resonant part of the cave. Later, I went to the Grotte de Niaux and again experienced great resonance in the Salon Noir where the bison were painted.One of the things about shamanism is that all the arts are integrated: dance, music, painting, incantation,nature. And the senses of sight,sound, smell, and touch are also part of ritual. Our bodies are involved in sacred communion where our extra-senses can come into play more easily and we can receive messages from the Otherworld, from the place of the ancestors, to guide us. www.songkeeper.net
Hi, Jill! I find your artwork to be downright inspiring! Your subject/theme choices, your sense of whimsy, and your great sense of color combine to serve up appealing life topics to ponder! It is quite challenging to paint in your style, and I can’t help but wonder where this curator received her education in art! I hope you can eventually move to another gallery! In the meantime, please continue painting these fabulous works of art! I’m trying to select a favorite out of your paintings which Robert is displaying today on his website. It’s tough! I like them all, but, I will make special mention of your farm work that shows farm animals on the hill and garden veggie roots underground in the foreground. To me, it is a precious reminder about where our resources come from! I love gardening and animals as much as painting, and this painting speaks to my heart!! Best Wishes for Continued Success! :) Shayla
Disposable? that’s fine — they can buy more of your art! I have clients who purchase my art, give it as gifts, put it away, buy more… Happy art gets around.
I too love Jill’s work. It’s fun and happy…no wonder people buy it. It’s easy to step on toes in the Art World. Let the criticism roll off your back and paint your own paintings.
I haven’t read these comments before but will certainly do so in the future. I have read your most welcome letters for some years now and have gleaned a lot of very useful ideas. The reason for this note is your letter on symbolism. Our weekly painting group was discussing your letter and I noticed that the words symbolism and mood seemed to be used interchangeably; I don’t agree that they are the same but maybe in some areas they complement each other. I find it interesting, what do you think Robert?
The creative relationship with basic human archetypes can be communicated through art to human perception. I am inspired to partner the healing, the meditation, or prayer, with a theme in need of consideration, like world peace or awareness of our environment. The central motif, the Khamsa (Hamsa, Eye of Shiva) is a protective amulet found in several eastern cultures. A Hamsa is meant to be hung in the home often with a Hamsa prayer for peace and protection. I chose to create this Khamsa mandala as a form of personal meditation that was cathartic in time of crisis, but in this same way, it also feels a fitting time for a global peaceful Mandala with a Khamsa symbol. Khamsa Prayer Let no sadness come through this gate. Let no trouble come to this dwelling. Let no fear come through this door. Let no conflict be in this place. Let this home be filled with the blessing of joy and peace.
Jill, “disposable art” are not the right words, but you know what the curator was trying to express. Your work is different. As long as you are creating your infectiously accessible style of art, you will be dismissed by some as “not serious”. Many art snobs will reject your work. Others will love it. Personally, I think you know exactly what your work is about, and that’s all that really matters.
I love Jill Dukovnik’s work and I certainly don’t think it is disposable art, but very “now” work. Keep going Jill.
Were you the shaman who gave spiritual guidance to this lost soul the other day when I was looking for a Starbucks on Fifth Ave between 54th and 55th? I was the one with paint on my pants.
The word spiritual has lost its strength along with the word awsome.Its used to describe almost everything.Aphrase that is seldomly used in art circles anymore is good art.
I love Jill’s art! My husband (an artist as well) have always been drawn to art with a feeling of happiness and humour. Who says that art needs to be dark and disturbing to be of quality?! Jill shows a beautiful personal style and I completely understand why it sells so well.
Jill Bukovnik’s painting are inspiring, colorful, and happy. His work stands out in a crowd, I love them! Please continue on your way to greatness Jill, you will succeed the way Norval Morisseau did. I was told that my paintings were ‘crap’, at first it really hurt my feelings, then I thought, that is only one bad opinion in a thousand – so I continue to paint!
I’ve been an artist all my life. Due to the need to get out of a suicidal depression I had to heal myself- 25 years ago. That process involved my DJ career paralleling my visual art- while my mixed music provided a soundtrack to mystical dancing- which opened me up to the energy forces of the Universe. Then- simply learning how to use these forces made me a shaman- and my work an outplaying of that. My 3-person Show “conStructural” with Clark Richert and Lydia Brokaw opens at the Boulder Colorado Public Library on October 17. I am presenting a lecture and (virtually obsolete) slide show titled “The Sacred Path of the Artist/Mystic” beginning at 7:15 pm on Wednesday November 17 with a 73 minute mixed music meditation just before (doors open @ 6 pm). The auditorium seats 250 people. I should have an email invite next week- Info Requests: paddedroom@jbrucewilcox.com
Peter Brown — thank you.
Mr Peter Brown asks no questions. His world view is pat. Robert asks questions. He makes most people think. That’s why everyone reads him.
I would suggest to Mr Peter Brown that he has- as almost all humans do- limited himself to the mundane world. I have not. I pity him his limitations- Anything is possible right now- especially discovering the magic that is everywhere present- And then living in and even becoming fully part of that magic!
Imagination is not only one of the greatest strengths of humans, it is also one of the greatest dangers, when run amok. The use of imagination and the exploitation of it in others must be done with great care, and responsibly.
All this talk of magic, shamanism, and spirit has geven me a craving for peanut M&M’s and Hulu. It’s cold outside, so I’ll put my jacket on when I walk to the Dollar Store for the candy. It will be dark, so I’ll watch traffic carefully when I cross the street. Sometimes a stop light is just a stop light.
To Jill Bukovnik, Disposable art indeed. This it is not Be proud of what you do jody
One might ask, why in this age, does the Shaman not play an important role in our culture? I think the answer lies in comments like what I read in “This letter on Line”. It is easy to get mired in projecting ones own negative connotations into another’s art. As well, it is equally easy to write-off another’s ideas and intuitions unless and of course they posses the proper standing . . . as in an intellectual standing of some publicly agreed upon measure of legitimacy. In either case, history has shown us that it can be dangerous for individuals of no particular public measure of respect, to speak openly as a Shaman or to demonstrate an understanding of the important questions in our lives. Being crucified comes to mind both figuratively and literally. This is the case because there is a resistance in this culture to believing that within us all there resides a Shaman. It is in that resistance that one is blinded from seeing the spiritual causes behind life’s important questions; it also has the resounding effect of questioning the validity or existence of the Shaman in another. This is the root of disrespect and misunderstanding in the world today, a vacancy of a sense of the sacred in all things, and especially in oneself. An artist may ask “how does one project a spiritual, Shamanic answer to life’s important questions in a painting, and do so in a way that can bridge the chasm of misunderstanding?” The answer, by respecting and listening to the Shaman in you.
Sun Shadow acrylic on canvas, 24 x 36 inches by Sharon Cummings, FL, USA |
Whether by design or happy accident, thank goodness that the first letter here states the truth, albeit with a few hedge words: that we will _never_ know the meanings or purposes of these images to the original makers. They can only be a Rorschach test to us of what we wish would be true.