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Good article. Good suggestions. I’d like to add a suggestion – that the gallery have ‘special’ exhibits for different genres of art — such as “primitive.” “outsider,” “modern,” florals, etc. to provide more inclusiveness to some art that might not be accepted into a general show. Or (one of my peeves) a show for unframed art. Or have special thematic shows that would cut down on the number of entries. Thanks.
I would add that jurors should always include one non-painter. We non painters always run into judges and jurors who are biased towards painters. They dont have a clue as to what my mosaics and wood burns are about.
I suppose it’s easy to say, but artists of all sorts must be sensitive to issues of art, but would do well to develop a thicker hide for commerce. Some aspects of commerce might seem to be personal, but in fact the results are usually a matter of pragmatics. A stiff upper lip, a bit of callous, and some unassailable optimism, hold one in good stead when being knocked around in the world of commerce.
I also dislike themes!
I have only participated in two juried exhibitions and some of my entries were accepted some entries were rejected. I felt somewhat elated and I was secretly hopeful that perhaps I had a chance. I did not win but I felt good that my entry was accepted. I am not discouraged and I’ll try every opportunity. I think we had juror from outside of our organization and different people who are well known in their art style; they are graduates from fine arts schools and I am confident they are really impartial. I think that giving individual feedback to a rejected artist is not encouraging but rather adding more bruising to ones ego. I think if there were any feedback at all it should be given in general; what makes a work standout among the crowd touching how use of color, perspective and the composition to the best advantage.
There is an organization of Plein Air Painters in Colorado. When they have a juried show they will not tell you who the judges are. Usually there are three. Two of them are kept a secret only to say that they are members of their organization. The results are as you might guess, the most chosen work for the show are the artists from the inner circle.
There are so many art societies nowadays that it is important to educate people what their expectations should be. I think that this topic hasn’t been exhausted yet. Societies bring happiness and unhappiness to many people, so bringing in more understanding would be of huge help to that side of the art community. The thing that I often want to ask is “why did you join an art society” — the solution to a problem is often found by just answering that one question, especially if it doesn’t match what that particular organization can offer. On the other hand, those things evolve over time and new members do have the responsibility to roll up their sleeves and work on changing things to keep the group in tune with the times. Your advise sounds good to me, although I would add that the guest jurors should always be new artist, not just one dude from another town who knows everything about everything.
I have sold quite a few paintings through the Los Angeles County Museum of Art Sales and Rental Gallery. They have a paid staff, and a volunteer jury. Most artwork is leased to sell, and paid off over time, so it doesn’t come back to the gallery. Some corporations rent work on a rotating basis, but my work has always come back in pristine condition. I think sales and rental galleries can work.
MY definitions: An expert is one who helps you go wrong – with certainty. Channeling Mark Twain: One cannot be a Prophet in one’s own country. Juries: always a crap shoot.
The very idea of a committee is always suspect. Unfortunately the convention has crept into so many areas of decision making. It helps if artists understand the nature of the beast and take it all philosophically. Whenever bureaucracy meets creativity there is trouble and disappointment. Let’s say that both sides mean well.
Public galleries and their art-and-sales running dogs put an unnatural spin on quality art appreciation and collection. They should get out of the business and just concentrate on offering cutting edge installation art, shock and awe and other forms of public entertainment.
On the other hand, we successful commercial painters support underfunded public galleries by giving them our work to sell. Conservative quality work supplements the funding of unpopular experimentation.
I’m a juror. Whenever anybody asks me why they were rejected, I often say I liked their work but the other jurors must have not. That gets me off the hook and keeps them as friends. In silent or hidden ballot jurying you don’t know anyway as someone else often does the tallying. As a juror I know the pitfalls and that’s why I seldom enter anything into anything.
I like the idea that someone looks at my work and turns it down. It gives me something to improve. It would be nice to know why though.
Level playing field it,s not. And never wii be.
There are different ways to conduct Co-op galleries. The one I belong to juries artists in once, and changes the show periodically with a limit of how many pieces each artist can show. If an artist is good enough to get into the gallery, why keep jurying all of the time? If the work needs so much jurying maybe the original jury needs to be more selective. Having an outside jurer makes everything legitimate and is essential to keeping the peace if one is to operate the way this gallery is operating. I also think selecting work every two weeks is overkill. Killing the volunteers if nothing else. Why not have a show up for say, six weeks, and allow a replacement piece when one sells. Sounds like this gallery needs to shake things up and make some changes for the better of all.
I once had 2 of 3 jurors tell me in confidence, that they voted for my work, but the other 2 were against, ha, ha, one even gave me a hug. That summarizes the integrity of those things. I decided not to submit my work to people who lie. Another society of which I am a member accepts new members by vote of majority of all present remaining members. This is not bad since it allows the group to evolve over time (although at almost the same painstakingly slow pace as the fauna). As a beginner artist, if you don’t have anything to put on your CV, such groups can be a good starting ground, but only if they have at least a few professional artists in their ranks from whom you can learn something. If it’s just amateurs, then only join if you need socializing and to contribute to the community, that has nothing to do with an art career.
Reading your comments on Art Rental Program, I can tell you from wide and long experience, that Art Sales Rental, does not pay. The odd sale that is made will never make up for the cost of frames that cannot be used again, or need refinishing. Plus even after taking Rental monies, there will be commissions to be paid, usually the same amount found in a gallery. The artist is never the winner, BUT if an artist is new to selling work in the open market, the artist can test the market place, and hopefully gain a sale or two, plus the names of purchasers. Always insist on the names of those who rent or buy you paintings.
I have been reading your column for a few months now and I have been both inspired and befuddled on a few occasions. Generally though, each visit is a chance to learn more of the art form that drives me in so many directions. I just had to say, thank you for taking the time to share your ideas with every artist above and below the Canadian border.
I can assure you that Robert has thousands of readers in the UK as well. Perhaps more of the silent types. But the advice found in these pages in universal and the fact that a variety of opinions are given permits the reader to judge for himself. I’ll personally thank all who venture their own experience. We have similar problems over here and can well use the advise.
Almost by definition galleries do not take an artistic approach. They take artists they can work with for commercial ends. Taste and quality are one thing, but idealism doesn’t work in the commercial world.
Many public galleries choose to represent and feature work that is cutting edge and unlikely to find anything but the most daring home. By introducing the public to new trends, this is a legitimate service.
I love Mark Twain’s def’n of an “expert.” Here’s another I like: “X” is the unknown quantity and “spurt” is a drip under pressure.
I too have entered paintings at the sales and rentals , and wonder how they decide which painting to accept. Is it a theme they have in mind? who knows.I have had some rejected that I thought were better than the ones accepted.
A very interesting subject, galleries and jurying of art. I belong to an Arts Council Gallery, as a “working artist”. My work was juried for acceptance and I can have 3-4 paintings up at any time for about 3 months. It is an encouragement to keep painting, to have something “new” and hopefully “better”. The town also has a gallery connected to the University, and it also has a rental program. I participated in that and have sold paintings on the “rent to own” system. Primarily this gallery rents out to corporate customers, so most work returns in good condition if not bought by the renter. As to the “jurying in”, the Arts Council, board members serve to jury in new artists work, and to jury for acceptance one man shows. I was recently asked to have a one woman show. Yes, it will cost me, rental of the wall space at $5.00 per foot. Yes, I will also pay commission on anything sold. The gallery advertises the show locally and will print up picture labels, price lists etc. I declined to have an opening night with food because I am handicapped and that’s one social event that doesn’t promote much in the way of sales, but costs the artist for the goodies, tea and coffee! I will be available to talk to people about the show on the days I regulary “sit”. I have sold from this gallery, more than at any other art connection. One art group I belong to was providing art work for decoration in the Health Care centre which morphed from a hospital to a long term residence. Unfortunatlely for us the area Health Association has suddenly erevcted a barricade of impossible rules for “health reasons”. No watercolours, no oils/ We are aghast and are pukling all existing painitings and awaiting further dscussions as to WHY suck prohibitive rules are suddenly needed. Many of our members have sold work exhibited there to familes of the incumbemnts and to staff. By contrast I had a small show last summer in another Health Care Centre kn my home town. No restrictions, The local art council controls the space in the waiting room of a clinic there, No costs, no commissions and I sold one painting! There are NO toys in the waiting room, and NO reading material,”for health reasons”, but you can bring your own book or newspaper if you take it away with you. Apparently the art on the walls is NOT considered a health hazard! For this project the jurying was done, by looking at e-mailed images of my work. In the Arts Council Gallery the main criteria for work is that it be “suitable for family viewing” (nudes but no pornography!) The rules are not as tight as for other venues because as an Arts Council it is there to promote local artists, of all levels, to encourage people to continue. I really enjoy being a member, and “sitting” is worth the half hour journey to get there. This gallery pays only a minimal rent, we are a “grace and favour” establishment, and sometimes get moved when a “profit” business wants the space. At the moment we have another gallery in this mall, a coop that left it’s home mall because of renovations. Lots of friends there, so I drop in to visit. The members have to pay fees, (to share costs of rent etc) and commit to longer shifts than the Arts Council Gallery. I think the mall needs an arts supply shop because people are always asking “where” to get paper, paints,frames etc. There is a commercial gallery in the downtown section, more snobbish and cherry picking what they think will sell best. They charge higher commissions, of course. Most of the time I thoroughly enjoy your letters, always something to learn from your wide readership.Ciao, JR
I am a professional visual artist who has had paintings sold or rented at this gallery, and I am not satisfied with the way I have been treated. I have no problem submitting my work to a jury of peers and having paintings returned. However, I have submitted paintings to this gallery and had them rejected with, apparently, no rhyme or reason. To have paintings rejected in this manner I find puzzling and vexatious. There seems to be rules being applied arbitrarily and inconsistently, with paintings sometimes accepted and sometimes not. My feeling is that the selection committee is picking paintings they feel will sell, which is there business, but if they want certain paintings and not others then they should tell the artists. Applying mysterious preconditions to the selection process is unfair. Bringing paintings in feels like a crap shoot. I have been told by staff that certain types of paintings are not usually selected only to find these same kinds of paintings then up for sale. I sometimes find amateurish and low priced paintings on the walls which in my view undermines the livelihood of professionals. I’ve got a studio full of paintings and I am looking at them and wondering which ones I should bring in for the selection process, but I feel that, given the results of seemingly random and inconsistent rejection, it is a waste of my time and energy, and an insult to my creative ability. Until things change why should I bring in my perfectly good (in my opinion) paintings only to see them returned?
Very interesting conclusion can be made from people’s comments. Artists focused on creativity approach commercial galleries and get frustrated with rules of commerce. Artists focused on sales try to use free community spaces and get frustrated when denied a commercial opportunity. It would probably make more sense to enter sellable art to commercial galleries, and to send free art to Hospitals to cheer up the patients — not make money from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the hospital denied art because of the sales to families of patients, that may not even be legal in some states. Regarding juried shows – art groups are playgrounds for artists, so if you play, there are game rules set by jurors.
For artists making traditional work who are involved in co-op galleries and art clubs, it might be instructive to understand the administrative part, the judging and jurying end. Just seeing how the whole deal works is an eye opener. Yes, some groups have integrity and try to be honest and open-minded. Others have very strange criteria for who gets in and who doesn’t. Reliable club members who regularly help out and do considerable work as well as gallery sit will find their work up on the wall more often than those who opt out of helping, unless you’re young & hot and everybody loves your work. But then you’d probably be exhibiting in a commercial gallery! Commercial galleries are refreshingly straight forward, only some galleries want their artists complete with lots of prestigious collectors already on the waiting lists for their work and perhaps a number of museum shows under their belts. As artists we need to find any and all places to exhibit our work and not give up if we get rejected. Lots of people need to say no so that at least we know we’re trying and DON’T GIVE UP. It’s the unflagging perseverance that will count in the long run. The more we show, the better the venues will get that will show us. Try different groups if your group is not hanging your work. Try other towns, other states, even other countries. And never stop painting.
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An acquaintance and former student of mine just opened his own gallery. We consulted, he and I, for months trying to open a gallery that was FOR artists, instead of using artists. His gallery refunds your money if your submitted work is rejected for any show. All proceeds from sales of your work are the artists. There is a modest standard forty dollar “a year” fee for submitting work. He has a new show every month. I’ve always said artists have the power, we create the work, we now need to exercise our muscle and work together. The gallery is in Pasadena California called The Colonnade Gallery. Tell him Rick sent you.